BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  "BDS" or "Whidbey" Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:34 pm    Post subject: "BDS" or "Whidbey" What is your choice "BDS" or "Whidbey" and why? Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" <Hierta Joujlazowisk> wrote: Quote: What is your choice "BDS" or "Whidbey" and why? Well heres my answer, my frist reaction was WTF is Whidbey... :P BDS rules :p Back to top Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" WTF ? Quote: Well heres my answer, my frist reaction was WTF is Whidbey... Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" <Hierta Joujlazowisk> wrote: Quote: WTF ? Well heres my answer, my frist reaction was WTF is Whidbey... Can't post that here. <g> Well, the polite form is: What The Freak. http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=wtf&Find= Find -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] http://rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "A doctor can bury his mistakes but an architect can only advise his clients to plant vines." -- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959) Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" <Hierta Joujlazowisk> wrote: Quote: WTF ? Um, What the F*** :P Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" <Hierta Joujlazowisk> wrote: Quote: What is your choice "BDS" or "Whidbey" and why? Hierta, please don't multi-post. I already answered in a different newsgroup. Followup set to that group. Anyway, asking in a Delphi group will likely get you replies in favour of BDS, especially since Whidbey doesn't do Delphi. <g> -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] http://rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." -- Irvin S. Cobb Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" Liz wrote: Quote: Hierta Joujlazowisk> wrote: WTF ? Um, What the F*** I can only hope you meant Fart. Otherwise, I'd have to cancel that. <g> -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] http://rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes." - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862) Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] wrote: Quote: I can only hope you meant Fart. Otherwise, I'd have to cancel that. g You can smell them from there?? wow.. Im impressive. Back to top Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" I was expecting a bit more "technical" explanation. I think I'm on wrong group (*.non-technical) for this. I've asked the same question (why either "BDS" or "Whidbey" is your choice) both in Delphi and BCB *.non-tehcnical groups just to get different opinions if the programming language itself is one of the reason for selecting BDS. Since .Net is a component oriented development framework, what BDS users can expect/find more in BDS thatWhidbey can not give? I suspect being a RAD tool with the VCL (or prematurely killed CLX) does not mean anything for Delphi and BCB any more. From my understanding any development environment supporting the .Net is a RAD environment. So what is the point(s) selecting BDS and relying on open ended promises of Borland? Quote: Well heres my answer, my frist reaction was WTF is Whidbey... Can't post that here. Well, the polite form is: What The Freak. .... Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] http://rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de Back to top Chris Brooksbank Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" Well Whidbey is the next release of Visual Studio now called Visual Studio 2005, due next summer. But I dont know what BDS is ! "Liz" <liz_wants_no_spam (AT) xcalibur (DOT) nospam.co.uk> wrote Quote: Hierta Joujlazowisk> wrote: What is your choice "BDS" or "Whidbey" and why? Well heres my answer, my frist reaction was WTF is Whidbey... :P BDS rules :p Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" Chris Brooksbank wrote: Quote: Well Whidbey is the next release of Visual Studio now called Visual Studio 2005, due next summer. But I dont know what BDS is ! Ah, Borland Development Studio I believe Hence the d2k5 trial goes into c:program filesborlandbds3.0 :P Back to top John Jacobson Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" <Hierta Joujlazowisk> wrote Quote: Since .Net is a component oriented development framework, what BDS users can expect/find more in BDS thatWhidbey can not give? They can re-use all their existing Delphi code base. Can't do that in VS.NET or Whidbey. (Some of us write code that is actually worth keeping and reusing.) Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" John Jacobson wrote: Quote: (Some of us write code that is actually worth keeping and reusing.) And sometimes we just keep it anyway Back to top Chris Brooksbank Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" "(Some of us write code that is actually worth keeping and reusing.) " Most of the code I see that is being kept is pretty crap from a software engineering view, but it does the job - so the reason is financial rather than because it was coded/designed well ! Back to top Larry Drews Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: "BDS" or "Whidbey" "Chris Brooksbank" <NoSpamPlease@Somewhere> wrote in news:41caf8ca$2 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: "(Some of us write code that is actually worth keeping and reusing.) " Most of the code I see that is being kept is pretty crap from a software engineering view, but it does the job - so the reason is financial rather than because it was coded/designed well ! While I like well-designed code as much as the next developer, I try to never forget that the reason I (we) are programming is strictly financial. IMHO very few of us are doing it for the artistry. From a financial point of view, the only justification for well-designed and well-implemented code is that it costs less in the short run or long run, reduces time to implement, or actually does a better job business-wise than crappy code. 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