BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Abandoning indy Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Thirdparty Tools (General) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message A.Thurson Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Abandoning indy Hello! I have been using Indy for FTP for years now with mixed feelings and i really think that it's time for me to move on to some other libraries. I am only interested in FTP, so I'm not necesarly looking for a suit. My mean pcomplain about indy is that: * There are serious incompatibility between versions. You can never be sure that your code will work with the following version. I've been changing my code forever to adjust to every indy release that I'm sick of it at this times. * The documentation and help is lacking a lot of details. Typical open Source if you ask me. * 90% of the problems have a solution: the magical phrase "download the last snapshot" with all the problems that arise with this: inestable code, incomplete procedures, uncertainity in the state of the product... I am searching for a TCP suit OR only FTP components with the following features: * Most be stable, preferably NOT open Source (Too many cooks spoil the broth) * Must have SSL support * Good documentation and support * Good support for proxies/firewalls I'm willing to pay a reasonably quantity for such a beast Back to top Pierre Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy A.Thurson wrote: Quote: * The documentation and help is lacking a lot of details. Typical open Source if you ask me. You may be right, but you are not being fair. I can name quite a few 'commercial' and 'shareware' components that make the Indy docs look like a Shakespeare sonnet. -- Pierre Worrigee NSW ,-._|\ / Oz \ \_,--._/ v +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "What a silly, boring little man. His only function is to let you know what Harry Potter's going to look like when he's old." - British comedian Billy Connolly on Australian Prime Minister John Howard. Back to top tony caduto Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy A.Thurson wrote: Quote: * Most be stable, preferably NOT open Source (Too many cooks spoil the broth) * Must have SSL support * Good documentation and support * Good support for proxies/firewalls I'm willing to pay a reasonably quantity for such a beast You should take a look at Synapse, while open source, it's not the same open source as Indy, Lukas controls everything that goes into it and remains highly compatible across versions. -- Tony Caduto AM Software Design Home of PG Lightning Admin for Postgresql http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Back to top Frédéric SCHENCKEL Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy Hello, Take a look at ICS suite : http://www.overbyte.be/frame_index.html Really good components !!! Regards A.Thurson wrote: Quote: Hello! I have been using Indy for FTP for years now with mixed feelings and i really think that it's time for me to move on to some other libraries. I am only interested in FTP, so I'm not necesarly looking for a suit. My mean pcomplain about indy is that: * There are serious incompatibility between versions. You can never be sure that your code will work with the following version. I've been changing my code forever to adjust to every indy release that I'm sick of it at this times. * The documentation and help is lacking a lot of details. Typical open Source if you ask me. * 90% of the problems have a solution: the magical phrase "download the last snapshot" with all the problems that arise with this: inestable code, incomplete procedures, uncertainity in the state of the product... I am searching for a TCP suit OR only FTP components with the following features: * Most be stable, preferably NOT open Source (Too many cooks spoil the broth) * Must have SSL support * Good documentation and support * Good support for proxies/firewalls I'm willing to pay a reasonably quantity for such a beast Back to top Ron C. Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy aahhhh now I see something more ..... just needed to wait a few more minutes !! "Ron C." <nospam (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote in message news:444f7650$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Take a look at ICS suite : http://www.overbyte.be/frame_index.html there must be some special award available for websites like this..... A marvelous piece of art indeed !! Back to top Ron C. Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy << Take a look at ICS suite : http://www.overbyte.be/frame_index.html there must be some special award available for websites like this..... A marvelous piece of art indeed !! Back to top MikeW (Dallas) Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy www.clevercomponents.com "A.Thurson" <athurson (AT) nospam (DOT) keeper.se> wrote in message news:444f1809 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Hello! I have been using Indy for FTP for years now with mixed feelings and i really think that it's time for me to move on to some other libraries. I am only interested in FTP, so I'm not necesarly looking for a suit. My mean pcomplain about indy is that: * There are serious incompatibility between versions. You can never be sure that your code will work with the following version. I've been changing my code forever to adjust to every indy release that I'm sick of it at this times. * The documentation and help is lacking a lot of details. Typical open Source if you ask me. * 90% of the problems have a solution: the magical phrase "download the last snapshot" with all the problems that arise with this: inestable code, incomplete procedures, uncertainity in the state of the product... I am searching for a TCP suit OR only FTP components with the following features: * Most be stable, preferably NOT open Source (Too many cooks spoil the broth) * Must have SSL support * Good documentation and support * Good support for proxies/firewalls I'm willing to pay a reasonably quantity for such a beast Back to top Donald Shimoda Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy tony caduto wrote: Quote: A.Thurson wrote: * Most be stable, preferably NOT open Source (Too many cooks spoil the broth) * Must have SSL support * Good documentation and support * Good support for proxies/firewalls I'm willing to pay a reasonably quantity for such a beast You should take a look at Synapse, while open source, it's not the same open source as Indy, Lukas controls everything that goes into it and remains highly compatible across versions. Used here and must say Synapse is the best. You have to carry the multithread stuff, but one time you have it is solid like a rock. I have MANY and say MANY troubles with Indy. I wll never use it again. Just make you loss the time. With Synapse the thing works EXACTLY like must be. No obscure antifreeze components (my god!). HTH. -- Donald. Back to top Crazy Horse's crazier lit Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy "A.Thurson" <athurson (AT) nospam (DOT) keeper.se> wrote in message news:444f1809 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I am only interested in FTP, so I'm not necesarly looking for a suit. I don't see why you'd need to dress up if you used other technologies. -- Download the final electronic version (1.29b, updated 4/24/2006) of "STILL CASTING SHADOWS: A Shared Mosaic of U.S. History" Volumes I and II by B. Clay Shannon: http://cc.borland.com/ccweb.exe/listing?id=23106 Back to top Wil Vaccari Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy Quote: No obscure antifreeze components (my god!). That's exactly my feeling about Indy. It's always make me get a general "unstable" impression about it. I've been using above-mentioned Clever and ICS, and I am happy with them. Back to top Wil Vaccari Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy Quote: You have to carry the multithread stuff, but one time you have it is solid like a rock. By the way, Clever is great at handling threads. Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy A.Thurson wrote: Quote: * There are serious incompatibility between versions. You can never be sure that your code will work with the following version. I've been changing my code forever to adjust to every indy release that I'm sick of it at this times. * The documentation and help is lacking a lot of details. Typical open Source if you ask me. * 90% of the problems have a solution: the magical phrase "download the last snapshot" with all the problems that arise with this: inestable code, incomplete procedures, uncertainity in the state of the product.. yup, the other problem is that Indy 9, which is still very widely used is no longer in even bug fix status, and for me, nearly every time Ive asked for help I got told off because I wasnt using their components in a thread. But direct off the form like I needed coz what I was actually doing was very simple. Even when I made a very simple set of code, pasted it in, I got told they felt it wasnt all the code .. blah blah.. and then got told I wasnt using their components properly as it wasnt in a thread.. For what I was doing having a bunch of threads would have been feasable but a lot of work where it wasnt really necessary. Its also a lot of work to migrate from indy 9 to 10. Quote: * Most be stable, preferably NOT open Source (Too many cooks spoil the broth) * Must have SSL support * Good documentation and support * Good support for proxies/firewalls I originally used to use ICS who are now working on an SSL option, which is payup and closed to the public at this time. I would strongly recommend them, they were great. I moved to Indy for the SSL, and while I need my stuff to be free, I miss ICS. -- Liz the Brit Delphi things I have released: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk/DelphiThings Back to top Q Correll Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy Crazy, | I don't see why you'd need to dress up if you used other technologies. <chuckle> -- Q 04/26/2006 10:28:27 XanaNews Version 1.17.5.7 [Q's salutation mod] Back to top danny heijl Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy A.Thurson schreef: Quote: I have been using Indy for FTP for years now with mixed feelings and i really think that it's time for me to move on to some other libraries. I agree that upgrading Indy can be a bit of a pain. This is why I have "standardized" on Indy versions 9.14 (or later 9.xx), and I have never had any problems. Rock solid for tcp client and server, good for ftp and http, but perhaps better forget the rest. I've no intention to use Indy 10 (fibres, silly idea, I never saw the point). But for SSL I use WinInet (client) or WinHttp (server) for which I wrote a Delphi wrapper class. Danny --- Back to top jeffc Guest Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Abandoning indy You might also want to look at this thread: http://delphi.newswhat.com/geoxml/forumgetthread?groupname=borland.public.delphi.thirdpartytools.general&messageid=44218a62 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com&displaymode=all --- posted by geoForum on http://delphi.newswhat.com Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Thirdparty Tools (General) All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next Page 1 of 7   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.