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Kevin
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote



We are currently using Imagelib and are ready to switch to something else.
I believe many of you have switched to ImageEn, can you tell me how
difficult the switch was? How does the feature set compare? Has anyone
switched from Imagelib to something besides ImageEn?

Thanks,

Kevin


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J. B. Ferguson
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote



Tony,

ImageEn is a component suite for image processing, viewing and
analysis. It can load and save from several image file formats, acquire
from TWain scanners (single and multi pages), capture video, applies
filters, merge images, select image regions (Magic Wand supported) and
other. ImageEn allows you to include professional graphics software
features in your applications.
ImageEn works on Delphi 3, Delphi 4, Delphi 5, Delphi 6, Delphi 7,
Delphi 2005, C++Builder 3, C++Builder 4, C++Builder 5 and C++Builder 6.

http://www.hicomponents.com/nproducts.asp

HTH...

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Regards,
Jan Ferguson


tony caduto wrote:

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What is ImageEn, do you have a link?

I have heard of ImageLib but not ImageEn

tony

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Brian Moelk
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote



Quote:
We are currently using Imagelib and are ready to switch to something
else. I believe many of you have switched to ImageEn, can you tell me
how difficult the switch was? How does the feature set compare? Has
anyone switched from Imagelib to something besides ImageEn?

I evalutated ImageEn and Envision and chose Envision. I've been quite happy
with Envision, it does everything I need. I had high hopes for ImageEn due
to the recommendations on these NG's. I tried it first, but it felt a bit
clunky to me and I couldn't get it to work as nicely as I could Envision's
stuff.

If ImageEn was good enough, I wouldn't have even bothered looking at Envision.
As it stands now, I wouldn't look at anything else besides Envision.

http://www.intervalsoftware.com/envision.html

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Brian Moelk
[email]bmoelk (AT) NObrainSPAMendeavorHERE (DOT) com[/email]
http://www.brainendeavor.com



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tony caduto
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Kevin wrote:
Quote:
We are currently using Imagelib and are ready to switch to something else.
I believe many of you have switched to ImageEn, can you tell me how
difficult the switch was? How does the feature set compare? Has anyone
switched from Imagelib to something besides ImageEn?

Thanks,

Kevin



What is ImageEn, do you have a link?

I have heard of ImageLib but not ImageEn

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Roy M Klever
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Hi Tony,

You can find ImageEn here:

www.hicomponents.com


Kind Regards
Roy Magne Klever
www.rmklever.com

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tony caduto
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

J. B. Ferguson wrote:

Quote:
http://www.hicomponents.com/nproducts.asp

HTH...


Thanks,
I did not know about this product, it looks nice and the price is right :-)

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Paul Dolen
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Since I have never used ImageLib or ImageEn, I can't really give you
the answer you want. But, I just thought I point out one other
possible product. It is "Imaging Toolkit for Delphi" by MCM-Design:

www.mcm-design.dk

It is a lot cheaper than ImageLib, but still more expensive than
ImageEn.

Quote:
We are currently using Imagelib and are ready to switch to something else.
I believe many of you have switched to ImageEn, can you tell me how
difficult the switch was? How does the feature set compare? Has anyone
switched from Imagelib to something besides ImageEn?

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Mark Williams
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Hi Kevin,

I've switched from ImageLib to ImageEn, but not to any other imaging
toolkit.

I did look at Envision when I decided to switch, but can't recall while I
chose ImageEn over Envision. I suspect there was a lot more functionality
with ImageEn.

I still haven't replaced all the ImageLib in my apps, but I'm working on it.
The bits I haven't yet replaced are the low level bits that require the
imagelib dlls. These are the bits I'd really like to get shot of (hate
those dlls!).

Haven't looked at the low level stuff in ImageEn, but I understand its all
there.

I'm very pleased with ImageEn, whereas I was just frustrated with ImageLib.

Cheers,

Mark


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Mike Lischke
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Marcelo Carvalho wrote

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I was thinking eliminate any third party components to avoid the
necessity to buy or upgrade it every new Delphi release.

You might well use open source software for simple image loading. Try
GraphicEx: www.soft-gems.net/GraphicEx.php.

Mike
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www.soft-gems.net

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Marcelo Carvalho
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Hi,

I use ImageLib since Delphi2 and I like it. Generally speaking, what
would be the advantages of these mentioned libraries? (ImageEn, Envision,
Imaging Toolkit)

In the beginning ImageLib was necessary even for basic image tasks, as
opening JPEG files that ware not supported. But now, for simple tasks as
just opening images we can do directly using VCL. Is there any advantage to
use such libraries for such simple tasks (just opening and viewing JPEG/GIF
images) if compared to ImageLib or the VCL?

I have an application in use for several years, and did not remove
ImageLib yet. I was thinking eliminate any third party components to avoid
the necessity to buy or upgrade it every new Delphi release. OTOH, I had to
do it for ImageLib only once, when going from D2 to D4, since then it is
working (D2006), at least for the basic features I use.

ImageLib has a limitation when opening large image files, something
larger than 3000 pixels wide. Do these libraries have such kind of
limitation? What about the VCL?

Thanks and regards,

Marcelo Carvalho.


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Quote:
We are currently using Imagelib and are ready to switch to something else.
I believe many of you have switched to ImageEn, can you tell me how
difficult the switch was? How does the feature set compare? Has anyone
switched from Imagelib to something besides ImageEn?

Thanks,

Kevin




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Dean Hill
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Jens Gruschel wrote:

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The VCL has the same limitations than all other libraries relying on
the WinAPI directly. Very large image sizes are only possible if you
use some tiling machanism, but it's a lot harder to work on such
tiled images (usually some kind of pixel streams are used to access
them). What I don't understand is that many libraries don't make use
of memory mapped files, which doesn't neccessarily allow to create
larger images, but allows to create more images without trouble.

ImageEn makes use of a custom TIEBitmap to overcome the memory issues
(I think it can use memory mapped files). The standard TBitmap can
also be used.

Cheers

Dean

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Jens Gruschel
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Quote:
ImageLib has a limitation when opening large image files, something
larger than 3000 pixels wide. Do these libraries have such kind of
limitation? What about the VCL?

The VCL has the same limitations than all other libraries relying on the
WinAPI directly. Very large image sizes are only possible if you use
some tiling machanism, but it's a lot harder to work on such tiled
images (usually some kind of pixel streams are used to access them).
What I don't understand is that many libraries don't make use of memory
mapped files, which doesn't neccessarily allow to create larger images,
but allows to create more images without trouble.

Jens

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Jens Gruschel
http://www.pegtop.net

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Jens Gruschel
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Quote:
Is there any advantage to
use such libraries for such simple tasks (just opening and viewing JPEG/GIF
images) if compared to ImageLib or the VCL?

Graphics32 and GraphicEx (by Mike Lischke) is a good free alternative to
open and display (and manipulate to some degree) all kind of images.

Jens

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Jens Gruschel
http://www.pegtop.net

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Jens Gruschel
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Quote:
ImageEn makes use of a custom TIEBitmap to overcome the memory issues
(I think it can use memory mapped files). The standard TBitmap can
also be used.

I've never worked with ImageEn, that's why I wrote "many" libraries (not
all of them). I wrote "I don't understand" because it's fairly simple to
implement. I'm using my own library, which uses memory mapped files, too
(and my own memory manager to map memory from scratch disks in a more or
less smart way).

Jens

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Jens Gruschel
http://www.pegtop.net

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Dean Hill
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternative to Imagelib Reply with quote

Jens Gruschel wrote:

Quote:
I've never worked with ImageEn, that's why I wrote "many" libraries
(not all of them). I wrote "I don't understand" because it's fairly

Did not mean to hint that you meant anything untoward. I was just
saying that ImageEn had what you were talking about.

Quote:
simple to implement. I'm using my own library, which uses memory
mapped files, too (and my own memory manager to map memory from
scratch disks in a more or less smart way).

I use your PegTop sliders which are great so I have to assume that your
internal memory manager is good as well :)

Cheers

Dean

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