BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 12, 13, 14  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message sk Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Yesterday, Borland Developer Conference was held in Shinagawa, Tokyo. http://www.b-event.jp/devcon-tokyo06/ David I and John Kaster came to Japan, and they explained the current status of new company, new roadmap, and the future of IDE. Some Japanese persons are reported this session. If you can read the Japanese text, Please open the following URL. http://d.hatena.ne.jp/A7M/ http://blog.so-net.ne.jp/bousyo/2006-03-03-1 That is a digest: * Current roadmap: # BDS2007(2007) * .NET 2.0 * VCL CompactFramework * Windows Vista # Delphi for Vista(2007-2008) * VCL for Windows Presentation Foundation(Avalon) support * Indigo support # Delphi/C++Builder for Win64(2008) * 64bit Native * VCL Win64 * Interbase will convert to .NET application * 2006 2Q, Localized BDN will be started. http://bdn2.borland.com/!jp * DevCo : New Company - Borland and DevCo will share the technology and patent. John Kaster said: Kylix still alive. DecCo think Kylix will support MacOS and Solaris. Back to top sk Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Hear is a clip of major Japanese IT media of David I's interview. http://www.atmarkit.co.jp/news/200603/04/borland.html http://itpro.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/NEWS/20060302/231632/ http://enterprise.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/topic/2006/03/03/7339.html http://www.itmedia.co.jp/enterprise/articles/0603/03/news007.html Digest: * End of June, A transition to new company will be completed. * David I will join into new company, * Delphi never change to the open source. * Interbase is enabling to support UNICODE now. Back to top Marco Sangali Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. "Kylix still alive. DecCo think Kylix will support MacOS and Solaris. " That is great! Specially the MacOS port (okay, I'm being a little selfish here, but what the hell... ). These DevCo plans are getting better and better. Thanks for the info! Regards, Marco Back to top Tom Reiertsen Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. What? No .Net 2.0 support in 2006? According to the original Roadmap, Highlander should be out in 2006. Has this changed? Best Regards, Tom Reiertsen Back to top sk Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. "Tom Reiertsen" <tom (AT) reiertsen (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: What? No .Net 2.0 support in 2006? According to the original Roadmap, Highlander should be out in 2006. Has this changed? A person's blog said Highlander will be released in year 2007. But another person's blog said Highlander will be released still year 2006. David I can not speak Japanese language, I think. A lot of information may lost in translation. - sk Back to top Nils Boedeker Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Hi, Quote: According to the original Roadmap, Highlander should be out in 2006. Has this changed? better 2007 than a 2006er solution that works instable... Nils _________________________________ Verlag Eugen Ulmer Datenbanken und IT-Entwicklung Nils Bödeker Bürgerwohlsweg 7 D-28215 Bremen Germany Tel: +49 (0)421 - 3795020 Fax: +49 (0)421 - 3795021 Mobil: +49 (0) 172 - 7468066 nboedeker (AT) ulmer (DOT) de www.ulmer.de / www.nbsoft.de yahoo ID: nilsboedeker Skype ID: nilsboedeker ICQ ID: 206474523 Back to top sk Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. One more thing. Borland person said : Delphi 2006 Update2 will release around Apr to June. Back to top sk Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Hear is other article from ZDNet Japan http://japan.zdnet.com/news/devsys/story/0,2000052522,20097747,00.htm You can "see" the screen shot of roadmap. http://japan.zdnet.com/media/2006/news/03/060303_bdc_03.jpg 2007 : Highlander : .NET 2.0 support. Mid 2007 : Delphi for Vista : Windows Presentation Foundation / Windows Communication Framework support 2008 : Delphi/C++ for Win64 : Win64 support It looks like Highlander may be released in Year 2007. Back to top Ingvar Nilsen Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. sk wrote: Quote: David I can not speak Japanese language, I think. I believe JK can, ask him! :) -- Ingvar Nilsen http://www.ingvarius.com Back to top HS Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Fairly odd with a roadmap slide that maps the past... Anyway, too bad Unicode didn't figure on the slide! Though I suppose it's fairly certain it'll be a part of VCL 64 bit (in 2-1/2 years time), I really hoped we'd see some solid progress on the VCL 32-bit front too. These days Delphi is probably used more outside the US than inside. Plenty of Delphi developers in Southern and Eastern Europe, Middle East and Asia needs Unicode... HS "sk" <sk (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: >You can "see" the screen shot of roadmap. Back to top Robert Wachtel Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Hi! Quote: According to the original Roadmap, Highlander should be out in 2006. You didn't really believe that, did you? ;-) Robert Back to top Ingvar Nilsen Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Nils Boedeker wrote: Quote: Hi, According to the original Roadmap, Highlander should be out in 2006. Has this changed? better 2007 than a 2006er solution that works instable... As if these two options were the only available. What about a stable version in 2006? A RAD tool is sorely needed for ASP.Net 2.0, for real programmers. Microsoft has with VS 2005 taken a step backwards, in the wrong direction IMO. The tool satisfies "point and click" development, but the muddling of GUI controls and non-visual components together in a messy soup is not what I would have done. Here DevCo would have had a real opportunity to repeat the success with Delphi 10 years ago. What the world needs is an IDE that separates the GUI and the code logic, and still maintains the RAD approach. VS 2005 is horrible for spoilt Delphi developers. Still it is ASP.Net 2.0 and C# 2.0 which both have so many advantages that one today has no choice for ASP.Net development than to use 2.0. (IMHO that is) When Highlander finally hits the street, a lot of water has flowed in the rivers, and I hardly see myself developing web apps using Delphi, unless DevCo manage to come up with a Delphi-ish solution for ASP.Net 2.0 - soon. In the mean time, I (and probably a lot of others) use VS 2005 and tweak it as much as we can to resemble the Delphi way of doing things. I write some components and a small framework to circumvent the new VS "advantages", maybe this will be made public one day.. -- Ingvar Nilsen http://www.ingvarius.com Back to top Nils Boedeker Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Hi, Quote: When Highlander finally hits the street, a lot of water has flowed in the rivers, and I hardly see myself developing web apps using Delphi, unless DevCo manage to come up with a Delphi-ish solution for ASP.Net 2.0 - soon. But a "bad" NET 2.0 solution is much more worse that a late NET 2.0 solution. Remempber D2005 and D8. They should deliver it if it is ready. I also take a look at VS2005, nice tool. Nevertheless Delphi (VCL, RAD Dev) - 2006 - ist much more better. Nils PS:we don't use ASP.NET... we still use ISAPI/Webbroker (with a lot of success)... _________________________________ Verlag Eugen Ulmer Datenbanken und IT-Entwicklung Nils Bödeker Bürgerwohlsweg 7 D-28215 Bremen Germany Tel: +49 (0)421 - 3795020 Fax: +49 (0)421 - 3795021 Mobil: +49 (0) 172 - 7468066 nboedeker (AT) ulmer (DOT) de www.ulmer.de / www.nbsoft.de yahoo ID: nilsboedeker Skype ID: nilsboedeker ICQ ID: 206474523 Back to top Tom Reiertsen Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. I agree with you Ingvar. What worries me is that .Net 3.0 might be in the works when Borland finally delivers .Net 2.0 support. I'd rather want them to catch up and quickly. Tom Back to top Ingvar Nilsen Guest Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd. Tom Reiertsen wrote: Quote: I agree with you Ingvar. What worries me is that .Net 3.0 might be in the works when Borland finally delivers .Net 2.0 support. I'd rather want them to catch up and quickly. Why can't DevCo write a VS plug-in? They could acquire chrome and with combined efforts show the world what real RAD development is. I have seldom seen such a great opportunity for a product as a real RAD IDE for ASP.Net. Microsoft is years behind Borland in certain areas, and the VS 2005 way of doing it for web apps is so clumsy that only VB developers can feel at home. Even if the product got 5% market share it should mean a success, if I am not completely wrong. -- Ingvar Nilsen http://www.ingvarius.com Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 12, 13, 14  Next Page 1 of 14   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.