BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  CVS Software          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Danila Vershinin Guest Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: CVS Software Hi, I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). Need an advice on choosing the right CVS server/client. Any hint would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. Back to top Thomas Maeder [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: CVS Software "Danila Vershinin" <easyREMOVETHISmsi (AT) yandex (DOT) ru> writes: Quote: I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). Need an advice on choosing the right CVS server/client. I personally use two CVS clients on Windows: - the one that comes with cygwin (cf. http://www.cygwin.com/) - the one integrated into XEmacs I have seen people using (and being happy with) Tortoise CVS (which is integrated into Windows Explorer). As for the the CVS server, I can't recommend a product. It's a good idea to access whatever you choose using the pserver protocol to avoid stepping on each other's feet. The newsgroups dealing with Visual Studio are hosted by Microsoft, by the way. Back to top Danila Vershinin Guest Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: CVS Software "Thomas Maeder [TeamB]" <maeder (AT) glue (DOT) ch> wrote .... Quote: The newsgroups dealing with Visual Studio are hosted by Microsoft, by the way. Thanks very much for your post Yes, I know about Microsoft newsgroups, but this group seems more alive than microsoft.public.vstudio.development (maybe I had to post somewhere else :) Back to top Stewart Gaskell Guest Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: CVS Software "Danila Vershinin" <easyREMOVETHISmsi (AT) yandex (DOT) ru> wrote Quote: Hi, I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). Need an advice on choosing the right CVS server/client. Any hint would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. We now use TortoiseCVS http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ (which is free) along with Araxis merge http://www.araxis.com/merge/ (which isn't free but is well worth the money ~£60). This combination works extremely well for us (10) developers. Stewart Back to top DavidPerkins Guest Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: CVS Software Quote: I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). Need an advice on choosing the right CVS server/client. Any hint would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. I think the usual advice is to use Subversion and Tortoise SVN Back to top Dennis Jones Guest Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: CVS Software "Danila Vershinin" <easyREMOVETHISmsi (AT) yandex (DOT) ru> wrote Quote: Hi, I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). Need an advice on choosing the right CVS server/client. A couple of things... If you care about versioning binary files and/or folders, you may want to consider Subversion instead of CVS, as CVS does not manage folders and has only very limited support for binary files. Subversion and CVS each have their own pros and cons, but they're both very capable revision control systems. If you decide to use CVS, the usual recommendation is to use a *nix-based server. The CVS source will compile (with gcc) on almost any Unix variant. If you want a Windows-based server, you will have to use CVSNT, which is a CVS derivative that was especially created to run as a server under Windows. As for clients, there are at least three primary clients: the command line client, WinCVS, and TortoiseCVS, but there are numerous others. I personally use the command line client, though I use WinCVS occasionally because it allows me to do graphical diff'ing very easily (I don't use TortoiseCVS because I have TortoiseSVN installed, and there are a few minor conflicts when both are installed simultaneously). WinCVS is a separate GUI application built on top of CVS. TortoiseCVS integrates nicely into Explorer, and if it is as good as TortoiseSVN, is probably a better choice than WinCVS. - Dennis Back to top Darko Miletic Guest Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:59 am    Post subject: Re: CVS Software Danila Vershinin wrote: Quote: Hi, I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). Need an advice on choosing the right CVS server/client. For server use linux/unix and nothing else. It is recommmended to use latest stable version of CVS on server side. If your *nix server does not have that version compile it from source. For client I highly recommend TortoiseCVS accompanied with winmerge (free diff/merge tool) that integrates into tortoiseCVS. TortoiseCVS http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ WinMerge http://winmerge.sourceforge.net/ If, however you vould like to have CVS integrated into visual studio than there is commercial client called CVS SCC Proxy. You can take a look here: Back to top Darko Miletic Guest Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: CVS Software I pressed send to soon so here is the missing link http://www.pushok.com/soft_cvs.php Darko Back to top Relaxin Guest Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: CVS Software Here are some comparisons: http://better-scm.berlios.de/comparison/comparison.html "Danila Vershinin" <easyREMOVETHISmsi (AT) yandex (DOT) ru> wrote Quote: Hi, I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). Need an advice on choosing the right CVS server/client. Any hint would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. Back to top Cool Guy Guest Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: CVS Software Danila Vershinin <easyREMOVETHISmsi (AT) yandex (DOT) ru> wrote: Quote: I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). [...] Did you mean *VCS* (version control system)? CVS is a particular implementation of a version control system; Subversion is another. Back to top Charles Pope Guest Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: CVS Software Quote: I am starting to build new application in Visual Studio and now thinking about using CVS software (there are 3 developers working on the project). Need an advice on choosing the right CVS server/client. Any hint would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. For the server, CVSNT at www.cvsnt.org works well and provides functionality beyond standard cvs. It can run on Windows or Unix. It also keeps track of merging branches neatly. Once I saw that, I postponed moving to subversion. We use Tortoise CVS and WinCVS as client software. Charles Back to top Hendrik Schober Guest Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: CVS Software Dennis Jones <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: [...] (I don't use TortoiseCVS because I have TortoiseSVN installed, and there are a few minor conflicts when both are installed simultaneously) [...] What are they? We (still) use CVS at work, but I started playing with SVN at home -- so I have both tortoises installed and never had any problems. (I watch out to checkout into different directory trees only, if that makes any difference.) Quote: [...] TortoiseCVS integrates nicely into Explorer, and if it is as good as TortoiseSVN, is probably a better choice than WinCVS. IMO TortoiseCVS/TortoiseSVN is the same as CVS/SVN: Basically the same, but in SVN everything seems to be better thought out, better implemented, and feels better to use for me. So I second the recommandations for SVN. Setting up a server might be more of a challenge with SVN ( have not tried to), but this should pay off soon. Quote: - Dennis Schobi -- [email]SpamTrap (AT) gmx (DOT) de[/email] is never read I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org "If you put a large switch in some cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry." Terry Pratchett Back to top Dennis Jones Guest Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: CVS Software "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap (AT) gmx (DOT) de> wrote Quote: Dennis Jones <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: [...] (I don't use TortoiseCVS because I have TortoiseSVN installed, and there are a few minor conflicts when both are installed simultaneously) [...] What are they? We (still) use CVS at work, but I started playing with SVN at home -- so I have both tortoises installed and never had any problems. Well, it is possible that the conflicts I experienced have been resolved since I last tried to use both of them at the same time (which was about year ago) because I seem to remember reading about them in the TortoiseSVN changelogs. The conflicts were mostly related to the icon overlays. As I recall the problem, there is a limited number of space available for the overlays, and if both TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN are installed at the same time, they end up needing to use more than the total number of overlays available from the OS -- and whichever one is installed last ends up overwriting some (but not all) of the overlays used by the first one. Quote: So I second the recommandations for SVN. Setting up a server might be more of a challenge with SVN ( have not tried to), but this should pay off soon. I think that may be true, though I cannot say so from experience. I use both SVN and CVS as clients on a daily basis, and while I have never setup an SVN server, I have setup about 4 or 5 CVS servers in the last 4-5 years - Dennis Back to top Hendrik Schober Guest Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: CVS Software Dennis Jones <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap (AT) gmx (DOT) de> wrote in message news:4396f08e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Dennis Jones <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: [...] (I don't use TortoiseCVS because I have TortoiseSVN installed, and there are a few minor conflicts when both are installed simultaneously) [...] What are they? We (still) use CVS at work, but I started playing with SVN at home -- so I have both tortoises installed and never had any problems. Well, it is possible that the conflicts I experienced have been resolved since I last tried to use both of them at the same time (which was about year ago) because I seem to remember reading about them in the TortoiseSVN changelogs. The conflicts were mostly related to the icon overlays. As I recall the problem, there is a limited number of space available for the overlays, and if both TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN are installed at the same time, they end up needing to use more than the total number of overlays available from the OS -- and whichever one is installed last ends up overwriting some (but not all) of the overlays used by the first one. Interesting. I installed TortoiseSVN a couple of months ago on a Win2k machine (latest SPs + Hotfixes) where TortoiseCVS is installed and have never seen any problems. (That might, however, depend on whether one has any other apps installed that use overlays.) Quote: So I second the recommandations for SVN. Setting up a server might be more of a challenge with SVN ( have not tried to), but this should pay off soon. I think that may be true, though I cannot say so from experience. I use both SVN and CVS as clients on a daily basis, and while I have never setup an SVN server, I have setup about 4 or 5 CVS servers in the last 4-5 years - Dennis Schobi -- [email]SpamTrap (AT) gmx (DOT) de[/email] is never read I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org "If you put a large switch in some cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry." Terry Pratchett Back to top Dennis Jones Guest Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: CVS Software "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap (AT) gmx (DOT) de> wrote Quote: Interesting. I installed TortoiseSVN a couple of months ago on a Win2k machine (latest SPs + Hotfixes) where TortoiseCVS is installed and have never seen any problems. (That might, however, depend on whether one has any other apps installed that use overlays.) The change to optimize icon overlays was in TortoiseSVN, so it might also be possible that installing TortoiseSVN after TortoiseCVS is okay, while the reverse might not be (which is the order I tried a year ago). - Dennis Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.