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D2005 and compact framework

 
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Andrea Raimondi
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: D2005 and compact framework Reply with quote



Hello,

I already know that D2005 lacks design support for CompactFramework.
What I wanted to know, instead, is if anyone managed to get through
this limitation and create GUI applications for hand-held devices.

This being the case, would you mind pointing me to any related
links that can help in this regard?

Cheers,

Andrew
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Jim Cooper
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: D2005 and compact framework Reply with quote





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I already know that D2005 lacks design support for CompactFramework.

It also lacks debugging support (a more serious problem, IMO), and in
the case of Delphi for .NET, lacks codegen support too (most serious of
all <g>). You can make CF apps using the C# personality. I believe info
on how to do that should be forthcoming shortly

Cheers,
Jim Cooper

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Andrea Raimondi
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: D2005 and compact framework Reply with quote



Jim Cooper wrote:
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It also lacks debugging support (a more serious problem, IMO), and in
the case of Delphi for .NET, lacks codegen support too (most serious of
all <g>). You can make CF apps using the C# personality. I believe info
on how to do that should be forthcoming shortly

Good to know about forthcoming info.

Didn't know about lack of debugging support - but that can be somehow
managed through by developing applications that make only use of
methods and classes supported by CF as well.

AFAIR the dotNET help is very explicit about what's supported and
what's not by CF.

Thus, keeping the code the most common should avoid more than one issue
with debugging. What makes me think is the lack of design-time support
(forms, emus and whatnot).

Will I be buyng VS.NET then? <g>

Who knows... :-P

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Cheers,

Cheers,

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Jim Cooper

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Jim Cooper
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: D2005 and compact framework Reply with quote


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Didn't know about lack of debugging support - but that can be somehow
managed through by developing applications that make only use of
methods and classes supported by CF as well.

I'm not sure what you mean, exactly. Do you mean you will run the CF app
under the full framework and debug that way? Hmmm, might be possible.

Quote:
AFAIR the dotNET help is very explicit about what's supported and
what's not by CF.

It is, but it's a PITA to have to look up everything you use :-)

Quote:
What makes me think is the lack of design-time support
(forms, emus and whatnot).

Not such a big deal. Forms are small, so you don't have many controls,
and it's pretty easy to do it all in code.

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Will I be buyng VS.NET then?

Currently that is the most pleasant way to do CF work. CF v2 should
surface more designer and debugger support for non-VS environments to use.

Cheers,
Jim Cooper

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Marc Rohloff [TeamB]
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: D2005 and compact framework Reply with quote

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:11:59 +0000, Jim Cooper wrote:

Quote:
Didn't know about lack of debugging support - but that can be somehow
managed through by developing applications that make only use of
methods and classes supported by CF as well.

I'm not sure what you mean, exactly. Do you mean you will run the CF app
under the full framework and debug that way? Hmmm, might be possible.

This is possible if you don't use any CF specific classes or
functions, avoid P/Invoke and don't use any 3rd party CF components.
This last one's a bit hard since you can't even access the registry in
CF without using 3rd party stuff.

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