BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  DDJ Language popularity survey          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Hilton Evans Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:10 pm    Post subject: DDJ Language popularity survey October DDJ: Quantifying Popular Programming Languages (1) Lingo % of job ads where language appears. The numbers represented low - high ranges. C++ 47.2 - 57.5 Java 39.7 - 45.6 C 33.6 - 43.0 C/C++ 21.8 - 31.3 J-Script 8.0 - 11.5 C# 2.3 - 6.9 (2) ..Net 13.3 - 19.0 (3) Cobol 2.3 - 6.9 (4) Pascal 0.1 - 0.3 (5) Fortran 0.7 - 1.5 Ada 4.1 - 8.8 RPG 0.7 - 2.8 VB 16.8 - 22.6 VB.net 3.2 - 6.7 (1) 12 month period from 2002-07 to 2003-06 (2) Rising trend (3) A language??? (4) Falling trend (5) Ouch. Don't shoot the messenger<g> -- Hilton Evans ----------------------------------------------- ChemPen Chemical Structure Software http://www.chempensoftware.com Back to top Robert Love Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey Quote: October DDJ: Quantifying Popular Programming Languages (1) Is this a survey of only its reader base? If so then it is tainted. I stopped subscribing to DDJ years ago. Last time I checked it caters specifiically to C/C++ Developer that would mean that C/C++ should always be at the top of a survey of its reader base. Robert Love Back to top JQP Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey "Robert Love" <rloveno (AT) spamslcdug (DOT) org> wrote Quote: Is this a survey of only its reader base? If so then it is tainted. The post clearly says "% of job ads". Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey "JQP" <suta (AT) 888 (DOT) nu> wrote Quote: "Robert Love" <rloveno (AT) spamslcdug (DOT) org> wrote in message news:tbsgmvo8vidupfq2ojmp8mlr8l3ta32537 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Is this a survey of only its reader base? If so then it is tainted. The post clearly says "% of job ads". And Robert's point stands. Back to top Robert Love Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey Quote: The post clearly says "% of job ads". Thanks for the clarification, It still is tainted if it only used its own ads. Robert Love Back to top JQP Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey "Robert Love" <rloveno (AT) spamslcdug (DOT) org> wrote Quote: The post clearly says "% of job ads". Thanks for the clarification, It still is tainted if it only used its own ads. Very tainted. Not likely to be the case IMO since magazines like DDJ are not a very prominent source of job ads. Back to top Hilton Evans Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey "Robert Love" <rloveno (AT) spamslcdug (DOT) org> wrote Quote: The post clearly says "% of job ads". Thanks for the clarification, It still is tainted if it only used its own ads. It was a survey of web based ads. -- Hilton Evans ----------------------------------------------- ChemPen Chemical Structure Software http://www.chempensoftware.com Back to top Brion L. Webster Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey "Hilton Evans" <IHateSpam (AT) DontSpamme (DOT) com> wrote... Quote: October DDJ: Quantifying Popular Programming Languages (1) Pascal 0.1 - 0.3 (5) It's obviously DDJ's own fault. I mean, come on, we're all good little sheep and none of us have been programming in Pascal since Delphi 1 came out, remember? The language is "Delphi" now, not "Pascal". They simply forgot to ask the correct question. Heck, there's not even an "other" category for Ruby, Python, Eiffel, etc. And Ruby must be popular, because I remember Rudy talking about it <g>. -- -Brion Team JEDI, 2001 Spirit of Delphi Award Winners http://www.delphi-jedi.org Fresno Area Delphi Users Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FresnoDelphi Back to top Dave Nottage (TeamB) Guest Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey Robert Love wrote: Quote: I stopped subscribing to DDJ years ago. Last time I checked it caters specifiically to C/C++ Developer.. Not specifically, but the readership is probably more C/C++ than anything else, probably followed closely by Java. The number of articles for each language would seem to indicate this. -- Dave Nottage (TeamB) Back to top Richard Grossman Guest Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey Personally, I don't care at all which is the most "popular" programming language. The most popular beer is Bud Lite. Nuff said.. Back to top Greg Bullock Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: DDJ Language popularity survey Quote: The post clearly says "% of job ads". Thanks for the clarification, It still is tainted if it only used its own ads. It was a survey of web based ads. The survey counted web-based job offers that included the keyword "Pascal" in the requirements. The results would certainly have been different if they'd used the keyword "Delphi" instead, or perhaps better yet, counted job offers including either of the two keywords in the requirements. Of course, they'd have to filter out hits for the other Delphi out there. 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