BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message tony Guest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. running on XP service pack 2 Back to top Dan Downs Guest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow Quote: has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. running on XP service pack 2 I'm getting that now on a Intraweb project, its the first time I've ever noticed it this much, actually takes awhile to compile a project, not sure why. D7, win2003 sp1 DD Back to top Dejan Stanic Guest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow tony wrote: Quote: has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Noticed? It driving me crazy!! Quote: Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. Here, it delays for the first time. Then (if you're compiling with packages, which helps a lot for speed of CC, but does disasters to breakpoints) it's mostly OK, at least until you recompile. Then, story repeats itself - if you're kind of programmer like me, who's used (perhaps spoiled with Pascal compiler speed <G>) to frequent "write-compile-correct-compile-correct_again-now_it_works" sequences, it's very annoying. Quote: running on XP service pack 2 Same here, although I don't think that matters. LP, Dejan Back to top Brian Moelk Guest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow Quote: has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. For me, the more 3rd party components I add, the slower it gets; it's the Delphi hourglass virus. My answer: codefactor. Here is my blog entry on it. http://www.brainendeavor.com/tw/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=3&postId=28 Quote: running on XP service pack 2 I have machines running 2k and XP and experience this on both. -- Brian Moelk [email]bmoelk (AT) NObrainendeavorSPAM (DOT) FORc[/email]omME http://www.brainendeavor.com Back to top tony Guest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow I loved the part about Capt/Admiral Jake :-) Thanks for the info on that, it looks pretty cool. Quote: http://www.brainendeavor.com/tw/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=3&postI Back to top marc hoffman Guest Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow tony, Quote: has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. Yes. i've been reporting that for 5+ years, it used to any the hell out of me. Sadly, noone was ever able to reproduce my problems (even though i saw it on clean Delphi installs) -- marc hoffman Chief Architect, .NET RemObjects Software http://www.chromesville.com and the fifty-two daughters of the revolution turn the gold to chrome Back to top John Jacobson aka Captain Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow tony <tony (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message <42e6880b$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> Quote: has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. Are you sure you aren't talking about CodeInsight, not CodeCompletion? CodeInsight is the hint that comes up when you rest the mouse cursor on a symbol. Since D6 or earlier I've seen this behavior where I'm happily coding along and then I accidentally rest the mouse cursor over a symbol and Delphi goes off into lala-land doing a background compile that freezes it up until it is done. In my newsreader project this can actually take far longer than ten seconds, an excruciatingly long period of time. This feature can of course be turned off, by turning off CodeInsight or CodeCompletion, but then you have to do without them, at least in the case of CodeInsight. I think you can always summon CodeCompletion with a Ctrl-Space keystroke. -- Everything in this post is mere opinion. It might be very well formed opinion based on an uncanny grasp of the facts, but it remains opinion nevertheless. Here's where you'll find Absolute Truth: http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.1045 Back to top Allen Drennan Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow marc hoffman wrote: Quote: tony, has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. Yes. i've been reporting that for 5+ years, it used to any the hell out of me. Sadly, noone was ever able to reproduce my problems (even though i saw it on clean Delphi installs) Yes, I always wondered why Borland couldn't get this right. Back to top Allen Drennan Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow Brian Moelk wrote: Quote: has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. For me, the more 3rd party components I add, the slower it gets; it's the Delphi hourglass virus. My answer: codefactor. Here is my blog entry on it. Thanks for the tip! Looks great - but wondering if someone made this for a while. Thanks! Back to top David Ridgway Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow tony wrote: Quote: has anyone else noticed that the Delphi 2005/7 code completion takes a really long time to pop? (around 10 seconds) Then it is fast for a couple more times then it slows way down again,like it is reloading itself from the disk drive. running on XP service pack 2 What would be nice is if Delphi could cache the entire index into RAM, and not hit the disk everytime. I'd be willing to give up 10, 20, 50 or ANY amount of RAM to stop these freezes. It could be an option to load into memory, for lower end systems too. -- David Ridgway :: www.glyfx.com Icons, animations & graphics for software developers Back to top Brian Moelk Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow Quote: Yes, I always wondered why Borland couldn't get this right. In my experience, this is actually something that has improved in Delphi 2005. But I haven't loaded D2005 up with as many components as I have D7 either. -- Brian Moelk [email]bmoelk (AT) NObrainSPAMendeavorHERE (DOT) com[/email] http://www.brainendeavor.com Back to top Brian Moelk Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow Quote: Thanks for the tip! Looks great - but wondering if someone made this for a while. Thanks! You're welcome. I can't say enough good things about CodeFactor. I don't understand what you mean by "but wondering if someone made this for a while"? -- Brian Moelk [email]bmoelk (AT) NObrainSPAMendeavorHERE (DOT) com[/email] http://www.brainendeavor.com Back to top Brian Moelk Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:12 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow Quote: Are you sure you aren't talking about CodeInsight, not CodeCompletion? I think he meant CodeInsight, but they are often easily confused and commonly mixed up. Quote: CodeInsight is the hint that comes up when you rest the mouse cursor on a symbol. Since D6 or earlier I've seen this behavior where I'm happily coding along and then I accidentally rest the mouse cursor over a symbol and Delphi goes off into lala-land doing a background compile that freezes it up until it is done. In my newsreader project this can actually take far longer than ten seconds, an excruciatingly long period of time. Yeah, it's awful...really drives me nuts. With any non-trivial project it gets worse and worse. Quote: This feature can of course be turned off, by turning off CodeInsight or CodeCompletion, but then you have to do without them, at least in the case of CodeInsight. I'm pretty sure that I've turned it off and it still happens. I really wish there was a way to at least escape/break out of it. Quote: I think you can always summon CodeCompletion with a Ctrl-Space keystroke. Isn't that the CodeInsight keystroke? ;) -- Brian Moelk [email]bmoelk (AT) NObrainSPAMendeavorHERE (DOT) com[/email] http://www.brainendeavor.com Back to top John Jacobson aka Captain Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:14 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow Brian Moelk <bmoelk (AT) NObrainSPAMendeavorHERE (DOT) com> wrote in message <205218632580162404668720 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> Quote: In my experience, this is actually something that has improved in Delphi 2005. But I haven't loaded D2005 up with as many components as I have D7 either. I've loaded up D2005 with as many components and add-ins as I had D7, and it still seem vastly improved to me. It becomes a bother only a fraction of the time it would in D7. -- Everything in this post is mere opinion. It might be very well formed opinion based on an uncanny grasp of the facts, but it remains opinion nevertheless. Here's where you'll find Absolute Truth: http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.1045 Back to top Erwien Saputra Guest Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 and D7 code completion slow John Jacobson aka Captain Jake wrote: Quote: Are you sure you aren't talking about CodeInsight, not CodeCompletion? Even if he talked about CodeInsight, I have problem with CodeCompletion. Type the object name, hit the period, see the hourglass for about six to seven seconds, and then the CodeCompletion window appear. Wien. 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