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Richard Grossman
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote



The packaging on Delphi 2005 is excellent. It approaches or exceeds
Apple product packaging. The graphic design firm and Borland staff who
coordinated this did an excellent job.




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"Darmok and Jalad, at Tenagra"
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Joe Bain
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote



Richard Grossman wrote:

Quote:
The packaging on Delphi 2005 is excellent. It approaches or exceeds
Apple product packaging. The graphic design firm and Borland staff
who coordinated this did an excellent job.

I agree, my biggest complaint about what I got shipped was the little
sticker that says you can download DB2 from IBM. Not that I want DB2, I
just think that it is a little cheap looking in such a nice box.

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Richard Grossman
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote



Joe Bain wrote:

Quote:
I agree, my biggest complaint about what I got shipped was the little
sticker that says you can download DB2 from IBM. Not that I want DB2, I
just think that it is a little cheap looking in such a nice box.


My only suggestion would be that Borland go to DVD next time.




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Joe Bain
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

Richard Grossman wrote:

Quote:
Joe Bain wrote:

I agree, my biggest complaint about what I got shipped was the
little sticker that says you can download DB2 from IBM. Not that I
want DB2, I just think that it is a little cheap looking in such a
nice box.


My only suggestion would be that Borland go to DVD next time.

I need to get a DVD Rom before they can do that. :)

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Will DeWitt Jr.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

Joe Bain wrote:

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I need to get a DVD Rom before they can do that. Smile

I'm pretty sure that, unlike the move from floppy to CD-ROM, the move
to DVD-ROM will be gradual. E.g. - the first release to be on DVD-ROM
would also likely be on CD-ROM so as not to leave those people out in
the cold. So don't fret. =)

Will

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Joe Bain
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

Will DeWitt Jr. wrote:

Quote:
Joe Bain wrote:

I need to get a DVD Rom before they can do that. :)

I'm pretty sure that, unlike the move from floppy to CD-ROM, the move
to DVD-ROM will be gradual. E.g. - the first release to be on DVD-ROM
would also likely be on CD-ROM so as not to leave those people out in
the cold. So don't fret. =)

Will

Notice the smiley. I think if we can afford $1500 for the software we
can afford $40 for the hardware to install it. :)

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Holger Flick
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

Hi Joe,

at least you got one (sticker...). It's missing in mine...

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Holger

Joe Bain wrote:
Quote:
Richard Grossman wrote:


The packaging on Delphi 2005 is excellent. It approaches or exceeds
Apple product packaging. The graphic design firm and Borland staff
who coordinated this did an excellent job.


I agree, my biggest complaint about what I got shipped was the little
sticker that says you can download DB2 from IBM. Not that I want DB2, I
just think that it is a little cheap looking in such a nice box.

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Joe Bain
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

"Henrick Hellström [StreamSec]" wrote:

Quote:
Joe Bain wrote:

Notice the smiley. I think if we can afford $1500 for the software
we can afford $40 for the hardware to install it. :)

It might not be that inexpensive for everyone.

I expect there to be companies that won't use external DVD drives
(e.g. because of a general policy against removable storage media),
and won't change the hardware configuration of working machines (e.g.
to add an internal DVD drive).

Good point.

I work at a 3 man shop and can do whatever I want with my computers.

I know many larger companies have much stricter rules.

An option on media would be nice, then everyone can be happy.

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Richard Grossman
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

Henrick Hellström [StreamSec] wrote:

Quote:
I expect there to be companies that won't use external DVD drives (e.g.
because of a general policy against removable storage media), and won't
change the hardware configuration of working machines (e.g. to add an
internal DVD drive).


Can you imagine MSDN Universal on CD's? Basically, MS charges an extra
100 bucks to get it on CD's (which must be a real nightmare to store and
maintain monthly...).

But this discussion leads me to wonder...

Was Delphi ever available on floppies or was it always CD?





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JED
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

Richard Grossman wrote:

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Can you imagine MSDN Universal on CD's?

Yeah. I've worked at places that had been getting MSDN on CD's for
years. You got nice binders to hold them in.



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Uffe Kousgaard
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

"Richard Grossman" <rgrossmanDELETE-THIS-PART (AT) techIII (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:41c78cdc (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
Quote:

Can you imagine MSDN Universal on CD's? Basically, MS charges an
extra
100 bucks to get it on CD's (which must be a real nightmare to store
and
maintain monthly...).

I started on MSDN a few months ago and was free to choose between CD and
DVD. No price difference, so I started with CD or I would only have been
able to read the disks on one of my computers.

Quote:

Was Delphi ever available on floppies or was it always CD?

Original D1 was a total of 21 Mb and the main installation is 15
subdirectories named disk1, disk2 ......
Both CD and disks were included (has just checked).

Regards
Uffe


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Anders Isaksson
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:39:26 -0800, Richard Grossman
<rgrossmanDELETE-THIS-PART (AT) techIII (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Was Delphi ever available on floppies or was it always CD?

At least my D1 came on CD.

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Martijn Tonies
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote


Quote:
The packaging on Delphi 2005 is excellent. It approaches or exceeds
Apple product packaging. The graphic design firm and Borland staff who
coordinated this did an excellent job.

I hated it. It doesn't even stay "complete" after you've unpacked it
for the first time. It has some kind of outer loose thingy...

I wanted a box :-)


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Peter Goodland
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

"Uffe Kousgaard" <look_at_www.routeware.dk> wrote

Quote:
"Richard Grossman" <rgrossmanDELETE-THIS-PART (AT) techIII (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:41c78cdc (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...

Can you imagine MSDN Universal on CD's? Basically, MS charges an
extra
100 bucks to get it on CD's (which must be a real nightmare to store
and
maintain monthly...).

I started on MSDN a few months ago and was free to choose between CD and
DVD. No price difference, so I started with CD or I would only have been
able to read the disks on one of my computers.


Was Delphi ever available on floppies or was it always CD?

Original D1 was a total of 21 Mb and the main installation is 15
subdirectories named disk1, disk2 ......
Both CD and disks were included (has just checked).

Regards
Uffe


I'm fairly certain that D1 came on CD only (at least in the UK).

I had to copy the disc images to 17 floppies to install it on a machine
without a CD.

Peter Goodland.



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Michael Bennett
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005: Beautiful packaging Reply with quote

Richard Grossman wrote:

Quote:

Can you imagine MSDN Universal on CD's? Basically, MS charges an extra 100
bucks to get it on CD's (which must be a real nightmare to store and maintain
monthly...).


YES IT IS. You wouldn't believe the amount of shelf space my old MSDN CDs take
up when MS shipped me new ones.

Quote:
But this discussion leads me to wonder...

Was Delphi ever available on floppies or was it always CD?

I believe so. However after losing two of my darn Turbo Pascal 1.5 floppies
back in '95 due to a move from one house to another, I opted for getting Delphi
1 on CD-only.

-James Michael Bennett

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