BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 2005, Professional – Upgrade          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Sasa Zeman Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:32 pm    Post subject: Delphi 2005, Professional – Upgrade "Delphi 2005, Professional – Upgrade (includes upgrades from C#Builder Professional) pre-order now Borland® Delphi™ 2005 Professional is the ultimate and complete development solution for Windows,® with Delphi, C#, Microsoft® .NET Framework and Win32® support for GUI, Web, and database in one hyperproductive RAD environment." - price $399. "Borland Delphi 2005 Professional is the ultimate and complete development solution for Windows, with Delphi, C#, Microsoft .NET Framework and Win32 support for GUI, Web, and database in one hyperproductive RAD environment." - price $999. I have fully purchased Delphi Studio 7 Pro ($999). Purchasing upgrade to Delphi 2005, C#Builder Professional is not included by upper wrotten. If that is true, Upgrade have no sence in this transition to "all in one hyperproductive RAD environment". Please explain exact Borland's policy about this. Regards, Sasa Zeman Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional – Upgrade Delphi and C# builder owners qualify for upgrade pricing. Sasa Zeman wrote: Quote: "Delphi 2005, Professional – Upgrade (includes upgrades from C#Builder Professional) pre-order now Borland® Delphi™ 2005 Professional is the ultimate and complete development solution for Windows,® with Delphi, C#, Microsoft® .NET Framework and Win32® support for GUI, Web, and database in one hyperproductive RAD environment." - price $399. "Borland Delphi 2005 Professional is the ultimate and complete development solution for Windows, with Delphi, C#, Microsoft .NET Framework and Win32 support for GUI, Web, and database in one hyperproductive RAD environment." - price $999. I have fully purchased Delphi Studio 7 Pro ($999). Purchasing upgrade to Delphi 2005, C#Builder Professional is not included by upper wrotten. If that is true, Upgrade have no sence in this transition to "all in one hyperproductive RAD environment". Please explain exact Borland's policy about this. Regards, Sasa Zeman -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. (RAH) Back to top Sasa Zeman Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Quote: Delphi and C# builder owners qualify for upgrade pricing. "Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade (includes upgrades from C#Builder Professional)" That is the same meaning on what I refering. That what was wrote is clear, but have no logical sence, since I'm allready paid $999 for a Delphi 7 Studio Pro and planing Upgrade for a new "all in one hyperproductive RAD environment". That what was wrote mean, that I must purchase another $999 to actually get "all in one hyperproductive RAD environment", which have no sence why Borland have released Upgrade anyway. To preformulate question. I need clarification from Borland's representativest: This ("includes upgrades from C#Builder Professional") is advertizing to C#Builder Proffesional owner that this Upgrade will upgrade C#, but FULL C#Builder Professional instaltion IS included in Upgrade for Delphi owners only? Negative answer will mean that Upgrade have no sence, what I refering. Thanks in advance. Regards, Sasa Zeman --- www.szutils.net Back to top Andreas Pothe Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade "Sasa Zeman" <public (AT) szutils (DOT) net>: Quote: Delphi and C# builder owners qualify for upgrade pricing. Both Delphi and C#builder owners qualify for upgrade pricing. Quote: That is the same meaning on what I refering. That what was wrote is clear, but have no logical sence, since I'm allready paid $999 for a Delphi 7 Studio Pro and planing Upgrade for a new "all in one hyperproductive RAD environment". That what was wrote mean, that I must purchase another $999 to actually get "all in one hyperproductive RAD environment", which have no sence why Borland have released Upgrade anyway. If you own Delphi 7 Pro and want to upgrade to Delphi 2005 Pro, you have to pay $399 for upgrade pricing (or less on your local or internet dealers). CU Andreas -- Wann fährt der RE über Bietigheim nach Würzburg? http://www.pothe.de/usenet/debx/stuttgart/anzeigetafel-1.jpg Software für Ihr Hobby finden Sie auf http://www.pothe.de Back to top Ben Hochstrasser Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Sasa Zeman wrote: Quote: To preformulate question. I need clarification from Borland's representativest: This ("includes upgrades from C#Builder Professional") is advertizing to C#Builder Proffesional owner that this Upgrade will upgrade C#, but FULL C#Builder Professional instaltion IS included in Upgrade for Delphi owners only? Negative answer will mean that Upgrade have no sence, what I refering. AFAICR the "full product" and "upgrade" versions are identical (except from a sticker on the box, maybe). It's a /license/ question whether you may use the upgrade or not, not a technical issue (at least that's been the case in the past). -- Ben Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Sasa Zeman wrote: Quote: To preformulate question. I need clarification from Borland's representativest. You won't get one here. These are peer support groups. Call Borland sales if you want a Borland response. -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. (RAH) Back to top Sasa Zeman Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Quote: You won't get one here. These are peer support groups. Call Borland sales if you want a Borland response. Calling Borland is too expensive in my country there is no Borland office. I did not find e-mail like sales@... Please post at least apropriate e-mail for that kind of informations I need. Regards, Sasa Zeman --- www.szutils.net Back to top Sasa Zeman Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Quote: AFAICR the "full product" and "upgrade" versions are identical (except from a sticker on the box, maybe). It's a /license/ question whether you may use the upgrade or not, not a technical issue (at least that's been the case in the past). Yes Ben, exactlly - full installation and license for C# Builder, for a Delphi users only with in Upgrade price. Regards, Sasa Zeman --- www.szutils.net Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Sasa Zeman wrote: Quote: You won't get one here. These are peer support groups. Call Borland sales if you want a Borland response. Calling Borland is too expensive in my country there is no Borland office. I did not find e-mail like sales@... Please post at least apropriate e-mail for that kind of informations I need. There isn't an email address AFAIK. Borland has several toll free numbers. Look on their web site. -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. (RAH) Back to top Sasa Zeman Guest Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Quote: There isn't an email address AFAIK. Borland has several toll free numbers. Look on their web site. Well Jeff, that is the reason of my first post here. There is no apropiate e-mail for that kind of questions, just for support. If I call USA or Germany Borland's office (nearest country), my telephone company will collect $1 per minute for "long distance call" - does not metter if they are "free numbers". Regards, Sasa Zeman --- www.szutils.net Back to top Ben Hochstrasser Guest Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote: Quote: There isn't an email address AFAIK. Borland has several toll free numbers. Look on their web site. That's the typical arrogant answer I hoped we'd never see again. :-/ Toll free numbers only work in the country they're registered. Unbelievable but true. (And for the record: "international" includes more countries than just Mexico and Puerto Rico. <eg>) -- Ben Back to top Andreas Pothe Guest Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade "Sasa Zeman" <public (AT) szutils (DOT) net>: Quote: If I call USA or Germany Borland's office (nearest country), my telephone company will collect $1 per minute for "long distance call" - does not metter if they are "free numbers". 00800 - 2675 - 2638 (Borland Germany). 00800 is a world-wide toll free number. It should be for free in Serbia, too. Back to top Andreas Pothe Guest Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional - Upgrade Ben Hochstrasser <bhoc@tiscali123^H^H^H.ch>: Quote: Toll free numbers only work in the country they're registered. Unbelievable but true. man 00800 Back to top Edwin Lau Guest Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional – Upgrade The short answer is you pay $399 for the upgrade to Delphi 2005, Professional. You can either go there through the C#Builder Professional path or Delphi Professional path. Delphi to Delphi upgrade is always possible, always has been and always will be. Delphi 2005 is an integrated product which merges the Delphi and C#Builder lines. In fact not too long ago, Borland mentioned that if you have the Software Assurance for Delphi or C#Builder, you get Delphi 2005. No question asked. You only pay $999 if you never have Delphi or C# Builder Professional before. Edwin "Sasa Zeman" <public (AT) szutils (DOT) net> wrote Quote: "Delphi 2005, Professional – Upgrade (includes upgrades from C#Builder Professional) pre-order now Borland® Delphi™ 2005 Professional is the ultimate and complete development solution for Windows,® with Delphi, C#, Microsoft® .NET Framework and Win32® support for GUI, Web, and database in one hyperproductive RAD environment." - price $399. "Borland Delphi 2005 Professional is the ultimate and complete development solution for Windows, with Delphi, C#, Microsoft .NET Framework and Win32 support for GUI, Web, and database in one hyperproductive RAD environment." - price $999. I have fully purchased Delphi Studio 7 Pro ($999). Purchasing upgrade to Delphi 2005, C#Builder Professional is not included by upper wrotten. If that is true, Upgrade have no sence in this transition to "all in one hyperproductive RAD environment". Please explain exact Borland's policy about this. Regards, Sasa Zeman Back to top Sasa Zeman Guest Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005, Professional ? Upgrade Edwin, Thank you for clarinfication. As you concisely describe, Delphi and C#Builder does not exists anymore as individual Borland's project, but integrated as one and released as Delphi 2005. Furthermore, anyone who have purchased Delphi or ("or" is keyword) C#Builder is capable to upgrade to Delphi 2005 and have license to use C# and Delphi individual code projects, merging the code by wish (or whatever 2005 allows), by upgrade price of $399 for Pro version. Complete informations I have needed. Thank you once more for clarification. That is unfortunally anouncment at Borland's shop page. Regards, Sasa Zeman --- www.szutils.net "Edwin Lau" <edwin (AT) iredsoft (DOT) nospam.com> wrote Quote: The short answer is you pay $399 for the upgrade to Delphi 2005, Professional. You can either go there through the C#Builder Professional path or Delphi Professional path. Delphi to Delphi upgrade is always possible, always has been and always will be. Delphi 2005 is an integrated product which merges the Delphi and C#Builder lines. In fact not too long ago, Borland mentioned that if you have the Software Assurance for Delphi or C#Builder, you get Delphi 2005. No question asked. You only pay $999 if you never have Delphi or C# Builder Professional before. 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