BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 2005 Update 4 Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 14, 15, 16  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Max Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Delphi 2005 Update 4 What issues should Update4 address? -Memory-Manager -faster IDE -zlib 1.2.3 support -what QC's ??? -??? Back to top Peter Morris [Droopy eyes Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 I don't remember Borland announcing an update 4. -- Pete ==== ECO Modeler, Audio compression components, DIB graphics controls, FastStrings http://www.droopyeyes.com Read or write articles on just about anything http://www.HowToDoThings.com My blog http://blogs.slcdug.org/petermorris/ Back to top Max Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Peter Morris [Droopy eyes software] wrote: Quote: I don't remember Borland announcing an update 4. in fact!!! Back to top Peter Morris [Droopy eyes Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Quote: in fact!!! Do you mean, "in theory"? -- Pete ==== ECO Modeler, Audio compression components, DIB graphics controls, FastStrings http://www.droopyeyes.com Read or write articles on just about anything http://www.HowToDoThings.com My blog http://blogs.slcdug.org/petermorris/ Back to top Ralf Mimoun Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Max wrote: Quote: What issues should Update4 address? Oh my... we have almost August. The Golden Disk for Delphi should hit the manufacturers in 2-3 months if they want a rollout this year. Same for manuals: you have to literally close the books, only proof reading etc. My opinion: there will be no Update 4 if D2006 is planned for 11/2005 to 02/2006. I don't think that Borland can free enough resources to build that update parallel to the real thing. Ralf Back to top Lee Grissom Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Ralf Mimoun wrote: Quote: My opinion: there will be no Update 4 if D2006 is planned for 11/2005 to 02/2006. They can release an update to D2005 /after/ DeXter if they choose. They can release it anytime, there are no rules. Albeit, if such an update were in the works, a public statement would need to be issued well in advance of the release of DeXter, else there'd be an uproar. -- Lee Back to top Will DeWitt Jr. Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 German Pablo Gentile wrote in <xn0e538mh2hodjs000 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>: Quote: You mind will be a new version if Delphi (D2006) that year? I guess are good news, but i dont remember a offical statement about that. Quite right, the last I heard on D2K6 was that it would be ready when it's ready. Besides, even after D2K6 goes "gold", that's no reason to cease doing updates for D2K5 (or D8 or even D7 IMO). Does Microsoft stop releasing patches for their previous OS the instant the newest one goes RTM? They still support Windows 2000, for example. Will -- Want native support in Delphi for AMD64/EM64T? Vote here-- http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=7324 Back to top Alan Garny Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 "Peter Morris [Droopy eyes software]" <pete (AT) NO_droopyeyes_SPAM (DOT) com> wrote in message news:42e267ad$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: in fact!!! Do you mean, "in theory"? Rather indeed I would say... Alan. Back to top Derek Davidson Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Ralf Mimoun wrote: Quote: My opinion: there will be no Update 4 if D2006 is planned for 11/2005 to 02/2006. I agree. I've seen a number of people here say that Borland HAS to release D2006 and get paid for it, for Borland to make profit and survive. They're probably right. But you know what? To be brutally honest, I could care less whether Borland survives or not. They're not the company I championed all those years ago. If they disappeared tomorrow, I couldn't care less. As long as there's someone with a clue to look after Delphi, I'd be happy. Quote: I don't think that Borland can free enough resources to build that update parallel to the real thing. Again, I agree and I've heard the song for so long now, it just reinforces my opinion that Borland isn't capable of handling products like Delphi. Please will a decent owner step up to the plate. Your time has most definitely come. -- Derek Davidson Back to top Allen Drennan Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Max wrote: Quote: What issues should Update4 address? -Memory-Manager -faster IDE -zlib 1.2.3 support -what QC's ??? -??? The things that annoy me the most: 1. IDE crashes and AVs 2. Slow Win32 compilation time, same projects in D7 compile 4-5 times faster 3. IDE going to sleep while editing (code folding bugs?) Back to top Peter Morris [Droopy eyes Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Quote: else there'd be an uproar. The dreaded uproar, seems there are many reasons for people to have them these days :-) Back to top Ralf Mimoun Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Lee Grissom wrote: .... Quote: They can release an update to D2005 /after/ DeXter if they choose. Ah. They only will release an update if it makes sense. From thje economic point of view. Yes, I as a person am not satisfied with the quality and the main focus of D2005 (I want much more programming/code writing/bug finding helpers, less abstract layers I can't even use in Win32 - of course my personal opinion), but I can remember the times when Borland did stuff that was economically BS. Not again, please! Ralf Back to top Kyle A. Miller Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 Homer: "Ooh! Look at me! I'm making people happy! I'm the magical man from happy land, in a gumdrop house on lollipop lane!....oh, by the way I was being sarcastic." Back to top Bob Dawson Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 "Derek Davidson" wrote Quote: I've seen a number of people here say that Borland HAS to release D2006 and get paid for it, for Borland to make profit and survive. They're probably right. GM has to sell new cars to survive, and Dell has to sell new computers--neither could exist indefinitely simply providing free services to previous customers, nor could anyone else. In the broad sense, your claim is a truism. Going off Borland's own financial figures ([url]http://tinyurl.com/dzp9r)[/url], they have cash on hand equal to three quarter's worth of revenue, and no long term debt. That's hardly a cash flow crisis. So since the only sense in which your emphasized "HAS to" seems totally trivial (for-profit companies need to move product), what's your point? Quote: If they disappeared tomorrow, I couldn't care less. As long as there's someone with a clue to look after Delphi, I'd be happy. Any company selling Delphi would face the same market conditions Borland is facing. Quote: Please will a decent owner step up to the plate. Your time has most definitely come. What specific magic do you think a different product owner would offer? bobD Back to top Bob Dawson Guest Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Update 4 "Max" wrote Quote: What issues should Update4 address? -Memory-Manager Hardly an update issue--the current MM isn't perfect or even state of the art, but it's solid. Quote: -faster IDE That would be nice, but with the current updates nstalled D2005 works well for me on my 1GHz 512MB system. Quote: -zlib 1.2.3 support That's a feature request, not an update justification Quote: -what QC's ??? Indeed. Only reason to justify an update would be bug fixes. 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