BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 2005          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Steve Lovejoy Guest Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: Delphi 2005 Hi; Hope this is the appropriate group for this set of queries. We have been pokey at following recent Delphi versions, and are working with D5 on a huge enterprise scale application. As Delphi 2005 is about to (has been?) released, we figure to jump there. This raises numerous questions about 3rd party VCL control compatibility. What version of Delphi, if any, will 2005 be analogous to? i.e. V9? I'm not in the loop, but it appears that 8 is really 7 in another set of robes? In short, does 2005 use previous version VCL controls? I am not seeing any reference on developer sites to pending VCL control versions that address Delphi versions higher than 7. Look forward to seeing the trial of the new IDE. Thanks, Steve Lovejoy Back to top Mike Williams [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 On 25 Oct 2004, "Steve Lovejoy" <dontspam_me.slovejoy (AT) haytonsystems (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: This raises numerous questions about 3rd party VCL control compatibility. What version of Delphi, if any, will 2005 be analogous to? i.e. V9? I'm not in the loop, but it appears that 8 is really 7 in another set of robes? No, 8 was a whole new version for writing .NET application. Quote: In short, does 2005 use previous version VCL controls? I am not seeing any reference on developer sites to pending VCL control versions that address Delphi versions higher than 7. Delphi 2005 is really the equivalent of Delphi 9 but includes support for Win32 applications like Delphi 2 through 7, Delphi for .NET applications like Delphi 8, as well as C# .NET applications like C#Builder. There will also be many IDE and productivity improvements. Delphi 2005 has not been released yet. -- -Mike (TeamB) Newsgroup guidelines: http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top Steve Lovejoy Guest Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Hi Mike; Thank you for your response. My initial understanding was that D2005 was pending, then I saw several roll out gatherings on a schedule somewhere that are stale dated (in the teens of October). Hence my misunderstanding. I have noted that the "buy" buttons still say "pre-order" (or words to that effect). Making the new version compatible with previous VCLs is a beautiful thing. Thanks guys! There are several older VCLs that I love, which are no longer made/maintained. What are we seeing as a release date at this juncture? Is there an advantage to pre-ordering (i.e. beta testing, RC shipped then patched by download etc.)? Thanks, Steve Lovejoy Quote: -Mike (TeamB) Newsgroup guidelines: http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top Mike Williams [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 On 26 Oct 2004, "Steve Lovejoy" <dontspam_me.slovejoy (AT) haytonsystems (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: What are we seeing as a release date at this juncture? Is there an advantage to pre-ordering (i.e. beta testing, RC shipped then patched by download etc.)? I don't believe any dates have been announced. Pre-ordering simply means ordering now and receiving the product when it ships. -- -Mike (TeamB) Newsgroup guidelines: http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top Steve Trefethen (Borland Guest Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Steve Lovejoy wrote: Quote: Making the new version compatible with previous VCLs is a beautiful thing. Thanks guys! There are several older VCLs that I love, which are no longer made/maintained. To be perfectly clear, if all you have for your third party components are DCU's then those components will _only_ be compatible with your existing Delphi version. However, if you have the actual source code for all of your components then it's likely you could fairly quickly get (at least) the runtime portion of the controls working with D2005. If the components include Open Tools API designer support for things like property editors etc. then you may have massage the code to work with the new Tools API. With each release of the Win32 compiler in order for us to make interface changes (among other things) the DCU file format has to change making it incompatible with previous releases. -- -Steve Delphi.NET/C#Builder R&D Borland Software Corporation http://homepages.borland.com/strefethen http://blogs.borland.com/stevet Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.