BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 9, 10, 11  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Max Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:58 am    Post subject: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped I come to the conclusion that Borland has stopped the Delphi 2005 Win32 development. - no Delphi 64-bit roadmap - no VCL-UNICODE support - no Generics - no Operator Overloads - no further D2005.Net enhancements for the Win32 version - no Linux/cross platform vision - no major bug fixing Dexter and Highlander (Win32) will receive some cosmetic pieces. I think it is time for a strong commitment (positive or negative) and a detailed road map. Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Quote: I come to the conclusion that Borland has stopped the Delphi 2005 Win32 development. - no Delphi 64-bit roadmap - no VCL-UNICODE support - no Generics - no Operator Overloads - no further D2005.Net enhancements for the Win32 version - no Linux/cross platform vision - no major bug fixing - not much added to the VCL / components for Delphi for Win32 since D6 . . . .. . . so it's an easy conclusion to come to. I hope D2006 proves the conclusion that Borland have put Delphi for Win32 in a Kylix-style 'stasis' wrong . . . Lauchlan M Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Quote: I come to the conclusion that Borland has stopped the Delphi 2005 Win32 development. - no Delphi 64-bit roadmap - no VCL-UNICODE support - no Generics - no Operator Overloads - no further D2005.Net enhancements for the Win32 version - no Linux/cross platform vision - no major bug fixing - not much added to the VCL / components for Delphi for Win32 since D6 . . .. oh, and none of the real improvements in MDA/ECO/modelling at the architect level that Delphi for .net has received . . . Lauchlan M Back to top Atle Smelvær Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Why do you say that Borland has stopped Win32 development. They added many new features in the win32 compiler that you mention nothing about. Many bug fixes. They integrated Win32 into the new IDE. There is no indication that Win32 will not continue to be worked on. The most important thing Borland could focus on now is stability and speed in the new IDE. When that is in order, I'm sure they will focus on the parts that are most wanted. They also did post some sort of roadmap in here some time ago for dexter and highlander, and they are not just some cosmetic pieces. If you have read the posts in here you should agree on that. -Atle Back to top Dennis Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Hi They added a new memory manager. Regards Dennis Back to top Max Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Atle Smelvær wrote: Quote: Why do you say that Borland has stopped Win32 development. They added many new features in the win32 compiler that you mention nothing about. Many bug fixes. They integrated Win32 into the new IDE. There is no indication that Win32 will not continue to be worked on. -inline (does not work 100%, see QC's) -for in loop I think very few since Delphi 6 (2001). The majority goes to the .Net side. Quote: The most important thing Borland could focus on now is stability and speed in the new IDE. When that is in order, I'm sure they will focus on the parts that are most wanted. Sorry, you take me for a ride? Have you read the D2005 issues in QC and NG? Quote: They also did post some sort of roadmap in here some time ago for dexter and highlander, and they are not just some cosmetic pieces. If you have read the posts in here you should agree on that. -Atle I do not know any roadmap. Back to top Atle Smelvær Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Quote: The most important thing Borland could focus on now is stability and speed in the new IDE. When that is in order, I'm sure they will focus on the parts that are most wanted. Sorry, you take me for a ride? Have you read the D2005 issues in QC and NG? Isn't that exactly why they should concentrate on stability and speed for the next version? -Atle Back to top Bruce McGee Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Win32 development going strong As usual, your "conclusions" are off the mark and even your supporting speculation is unusually wobbly. I come to the conclusion that you are just using outrageous claims to try and provoke some kind response from a Borland employee. Good luck with that. -- Regards, Bruce McGee Glooscap Software Back to top Florent Ouchet Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Don't forget that Intel is making a lot of research on a new processor (that will not be based on x86), if this processor becomes real, Win32 and Win64 applications will be useless... -- Florent Ouchet Back to top Oliver Townshend Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Quote: Don't forget that Intel is making a lot of research on a new processor (that will not be based on x86), if this processor becomes real, Win32 and Win64 applications will be useless... Nope. Dead end. Won't happen. Someone else might make a new processor not based on the x86 that Microsoft will use, but it won't be Intel. Oliver Townshend Back to top Charles McAllister Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Florent Ouchet wrote: Quote: Don't forget that Intel is making a lot of research on a new processor (that will not be based on x86), if this processor becomes real, Win32 and Win64 applications will be useless... Itanium? Back to top John Jacobson aka Captain Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Win32 development going strong Bruce McGee <bmcgee (AT) glooscap (DOT) com> wrote in message <xn0e60qq85fmak8000 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> Quote: As usual, your "conclusions" are off the mark and even your supporting speculation is unusually wobbly. I come to the conclusion that you are just using outrageous claims to try and provoke some kind response from a Borland employee. I concur. -- Everything in this post is mere opinion. It might be very well formed opinion based on an uncanny grasp of the facts, but it remains opinion nevertheless. Here's where you'll find Absolute Truth: http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.1067 Back to top Ralf Mimoun Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Max wrote: Quote: I come to the conclusion that Borland has stopped the Delphi 2005 Win32 development. I come to that conclusion, too. Delphi 2006 will be out in some months, so do you really think that Borland will add new features like Gerics in Delphi 2005? Hey, why no Win64 compiler for Delphi 5? And about operator overload: PLEASE. NO! Ralf Back to top Mike B Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped "Florent Ouchet" <ouchet.florent (AT) laposte (DOT) net> wrote in message Quote: ...Win32 and Win64 applications will be useless... What have you been smoking? Do you really think that Intel would stop making IA32 compatible chips so that the enormous market that they have helped create in the last 25 years would die off? Intel needs Microsoft, and Microsoft needs Intel. It's that simple. Mike Back to top Eric Schreiber Guest Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2005 Win32 development stopped Max wrote: Quote: I come to the conclusion that Borland has stopped the Delphi 2005 Win32 development. I came to the conclusion that you're a troll. 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