BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Venkatesh VT Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 I just saw in http://www.borlandevents.com/devcon/PDF/prod_disc_info.pdf that Delphi 2006 will be released later this year (i.e. after Borcon in Nov 2005) Is this the same as Dexter or is that a separate release. This also may mean that there won't be any more patch for Delphi 2005 since all resources will be committed in Delphi 2006. I was hoping that it will be released before Nov so that I can get it free through my SA which expires in Nov.I think I am out of luck now Venkatesh Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Venkatesh VT wrote: Quote: I just saw in http://www.borlandevents.com/devcon/PDF/prod_disc_info.pdf that Delphi 2006 will be released later this year It probably shouldn't say that. The release timeframe apparently isn't a promise. Quote: This also may mean that there won't be any more patch for Delphi 2005 ...or it may mean that there will be. Quote: since all resources will be committed in Delphi 2006. False assumption. -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Back to top Venkatesh VT Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 From what I have understood till now is that Dexter will include Delphi,C# & C++ Builder. If this is true why there is a separate pricing for Delphi & C++ Builder in http://www.borlandevents.com/devcon/PDF/prod_disc_info.pdf .More over to get Delphi 2006 it will be better to buy(if Dexter does include all three IDEs) C++ Builder since it costs nearly 300 $ less for the Architect version. It also mentions a successor product to C++ Builder.Is it Delphi 2006 or some thing else(which does not include Delphi) Some clarity on the subject is welcome or am I missing some thing ?. Venkatesh "Venkatesh VT" <venks (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I just saw in http://www.borlandevents.com/devcon/PDF/prod_disc_info.pdf Back to top Steve Heights Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Quote: From what I have understood till now is that Dexter will include Delphi,C# & C++ Builder. Yes, but that doesn't mean they necessarily come all in the same box. For instance, besides releasing one product inclusive of everything, Borland could ship one Delphi (Win32 + .NET) version and one "C" (C++ for Win32 + C#) version, or they could come up with one Win32 (Delphi Win32 + C++ ) and a separate .NET (D.NET + C#) version, or... I think some of these ideas were discussed on Michael Slinns blog, before it wsa taken down. I guess we have to wait and see. Steve Back to top Chris Brooksbank Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 If Borland can hit this target with a stable, fast improved Delphi that should be good news for Borland. Visual Studio 2005 will probably ship only a little earlier than this ( or may even be later ! ). So people will be able to directly compare the two. Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Venkatesh VT wrote: Quote: If this is true why there is a separate pricing for Delphi & C++ Builder in http://www.borlandevents.com/devcon/PDF/prod_disc_info.pdf Note the version numbers of Delphi and C++Builder in the pricing. -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Venkatesh VT wrote: Quote: I was hoping that it will be released before Nov so that I can get it free through my SA which expires in Nov.I think I am out of luck now You can always renew your SA. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Quote: If Borland can hit this target with a stable, fast improved Delphi that should be good news for Borland. Visual Studio 2005 will probably ship only a little earlier than this ( or may even be later ! ). So people will be able to directly compare the two. Dexter won't support .net 2.0, so there's little point in comparing it with VS.NET 2005 . . . Lauchlan M Back to top Kevin Berry Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Lauchlan M wrote: Quote: Dexter won't support .net 2.0, so there's little point in comparing it with VS.NET 2005 . . . Why? .NET 2.0 is simply one check mark on a feature list. :-) Back to top Chris Brooksbank Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Understood, but VS 2005 will have built in modelling, refactoring, several new GUI widgets and new RAD development features. So you can compare these with what Dexter will offer. It could do those in the old ( by then ) dotnet 1.1. Quote: Dexter won't support .net 2.0, so there's little point in comparing it with VS.NET 2005 . . . Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Lauchlan M wrote: Quote: a little earlier than this ( or may even be later ! ). So people will be able to directly compare the two. Dexter won't support .net 2.0, so there's little point in comparing it with VS.NET 2005 . . . There is for folks who don't use .NET. -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz How to ask questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Quote: Dexter won't support .net 2.0, so there's little point in comparing it with VS.NET 2005 . . . There is for folks who don't use .NET. Really? There are people who use VS.NET who don't use .NET? <g> Lauchlan M Back to top Sebastian Ledesma Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 "Venkatesh VT" <venks (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> escribió en el mensaje news:42e8d5da (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I just saw in http://www.borlandevents.com/devcon/PDF/prod_disc_info.pdf that Delphi 2006 will be released later this year (i.e. after Borcon in Nov 2005) Is this the same as Dexter or is that a separate release. This also may mean that there won't be any more patch for Delphi 2005 since all resources will be committed in Delphi 2006. ... FALSE: They have say (something like) 'we are now focusing in DeXter right now', so a SP4 for Delphi 2005 is feasible, but you will have to wait until 2006/2007. BCB people recevided a new service pack this very year (4 years after BCB6 launched), so since Delphi was launched in 2005 you probably will have to wait until 2009. If you wish a better Delphi just buy Dexter! Saludos Sebastian Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Quote: Understood, but VS 2005 will have built in modelling, refactoring, several new GUI widgets and new RAD development features. So you can compare these with what Dexter will offer. It could do those in the old ( by then ) dotnet 1.1. Right, but then can't Borland use the .net 2 classes to implement these same features in Delphi 2006B (the one due mid next year)? So really you should compare D2006B with VS.NET 2005, not Dexter . . . Lauchlan M Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 in Nov/Dec 2005 Quote: Dexter won't support .net 2.0, so there's little point in comparing it with VS.NET 2005 . . . Why? .NET 2.0 is simply one check mark on a feature list. What else are you looking to compare? 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