BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 2006 Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Steve Baker Guest Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Delphi 2006 Where can I find out what will be in the next version of Delphi? I've been writing DotNet applications in Dephi 2005 and find it excellent (it looks like many people in this forum would disagree). In particular, will Delphi 2006 support DotNet 2.0, and will it have a DotNet media player? Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Steve Baker wrote: Quote: Where can I find out what will be in the next version of Delphi? I've been writing DotNet applications in Dephi 2005 and find it excellent (it looks like many people in this forum would disagree). In particular, will Delphi 2006 support DotNet 2.0, and will it have a DotNet media player? Not a whole lot of the next release have been made public, but one thing we do know is .NET 2.0 will be supported in the release after DeXter. Which sort of makes sense as .NET 2.0 isn't out yet and it looks Like DeXter will be out around Q4 so they will probably be released around the same time. Borland can't chase the beta .NET 2.0 (which is still changing). -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) On waves of silver I dreamed of gold (Please do not email 'Till I lost the peace that dreaming gives me directly unless I dreamed of the moment of my own death asked. Thank You) That no one ever dreams and lives (Marillion) Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote: Quote: Borland can't chase the beta .NET 2.0 (which is still changing). Well they could, but chasing a moving target can be a lot more work. <g> ISTR hearing somewhere that no-one is allowed to redistribute the .NET 2.0 beta, and Borland has always (if you can count two versions as "always") shipped the appropriate .NET redist with Delphi, so that practice pretty much discounts any support of .NET 2.0 in a shipping product until after .NET 2.0 has been released. -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Back to top Dallas Goldswain Guest Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote: Quote: Not a whole lot of the next release have been made public, as usual, i dont think the crypticism[sp?] helps Borland much Quote: but one thing we do know is .NET 2.0 will be supported in the release after DeXter. Which sort of makes sense as .NET 2.0 isn't out yet and it So for .NET development, future win64 development it doesnt pay to buy the next version of Delphi, because its only ver 1.1 and win32, third attempt at .NET, and most clients that follow the MS bus like to have the latest and greatest hyped products and technologies, so maybe waiting for the release after next is more viable. Dont get me wrong for Win32 Development Delphi is still tops. Also I dont see why It cant be a SP, addin or plugin for Dexter. -- --- Dallas Goldswain Back to top Kyle A. Miller Guest Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Dallas Goldswain wrote: Quote: So for .NET development, future win64 development it doesnt pay to buy the next version of Delphi, because its only ver 1.1 and win32, Wouldn't it be possible to begin development in 1.1 and move to 2.0 when Dexter is released? Back to top Dallas Goldswain Guest Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Kyle A. Miller wrote: Quote: Dallas Goldswain wrote: So for .NET development, future win64 development it doesnt pay to buy the next version of Delphi, because its only ver 1.1 and win32, Wouldn't it be possible to begin development in 1.1 and move to 2.0 when Dexter is released? Apparently Dexter wont support .NET 2.0, you gotta buy the next version after it -- --- Dallas Goldswain Back to top Kevin Berry Guest Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Steve Baker wrote: Quote: Where can I find out what will be in the next version of Delphi? I've been writing DotNet applications in Dephi 2005 and find it excellent (it looks like many people in this forum would disagree). In particular, will Delphi 2006 support DotNet 2.0, and will it have a DotNet media player? I've added two pages to the Delphi Wiki Cities site for the future Delphi releases. I would encourage people to use this as a reference and to update any information here: http://delphi.wikicities.com/wiki/DeXter http://delphi.wikicities.com/wiki/Highlander Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Kyle A. Miller Guest Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Dallas Goldswain wrote: Quote: Kyle A. Miller wrote: Wouldn't it be possible to begin development in 1.1 and move to 2.0 when Dexter is released? Apparently Dexter wont support .NET 2.0, you gotta buy the next version after it So go ahead and begin 1.1 development in D2005 and DeXter and move it to 2.0 when Highlander is released. Back to top Dallas Goldswain Guest Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Kyle A. Miller wrote: Quote: Dallas Goldswain wrote: Kyle A. Miller wrote: Wouldn't it be possible to begin development in 1.1 and move to 2.0 when Dexter is released? Apparently Dexter wont support .NET 2.0, you gotta buy the next version after it So go ahead and begin 1.1 development in D2005 and DeXter and move it to 2.0 when Highlander is released. And Money grows on trees for you? I dont want to buy 2 products to get to .NET 2.0 -- --- Dallas Goldswain Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Dallas Goldswain wrote: Quote: I dont want to buy 2 products to get to .NET 2.0 You could always purchase D2005 (or DeXter) and Software Assurance. That way, provided Highlander is delivered within a year of purchase, you'll get it anyway. And future upgrades (provided they're delivered at least yearly) will be cheaper too, should you decide to renew your SA contract. -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "I hope I didn't brain my damage." - Homer Simpson Back to top Kyle A. Miller Guest Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Dallas Goldswain wrote: Quote: And Money grows on trees for you? I dont want to buy 2 products to get to .NET 2.0 Sounds like you could benefit from software assurance. One year of SA costs a lot less than a Delphi upgrade. The Delphi Small Team Pack plus SA is a pretty good deal. $3,660.00 is the Architect upgrade price for two licenses, 20% off. Two SA contracts are $1,677, which guarantee DeXter for free. (Maybe Highlander too. Can't guarantee that.) Basically, $838 for an Architect upgrade. Grr, I paid just over a $1,000 for my Architect SA. Curse these sales! ;-) Back to top Arthur Hoornweg Guest Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Dave Nottage [TeamB] schreef: Quote: so that practice pretty much discounts any support of .NET 2.0 in a shipping product until after .NET 2.0 has been released. Since VS 2005.NET (to be released in November, or so I've read) needs ..NET 2.0 too, I Assume that .NET 2.0 will go live in November or earlier. Is Borland so anxious to have Delphi 2006 out before November? -- Arthur Hoornweg (In order to reply per e-mail, please just remove the ".net" from my e-mail address. Leave the rest of the address intact including the "antispam" part. I had to take this measure to counteract unsollicited mail.) Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Arthur Hoornweg wrote: Quote: Since VS 2005.NET (to be released in November, or so I've read) needs .NET 2.0 too, I Assume that .NET 2.0 will go live in November or earlier. Thanks. Quote: Is Borland so anxious to have Delphi 2006 out before November? I don't think anyone has said they are, however I expect it would make little difference: .NET 2.0 support would probably need to be finalised well before release. -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Dallas Goldswain wrote: Quote: I dont want to buy 2 products to get to .NET 2.0 Buy Software Assurance. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Kyle A. Miller Guest Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 2006 Arthur Hoornweg wrote: Quote: Is Borland so anxious to have Delphi 2006 out before November? I've always wondered if there is a marketing advantage to releasing a company's product just before or just after the competition releases their product. My guess Borland would want to ride the "new IDE" wake created by a Microsoft release. In other words, soon after a VS2005 release. 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