BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 3 Pro upgrade to 7          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message TCClayPot Guest Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:09 pm    Post subject: Delphi 3 Pro upgrade to 7 I am considering upgrading to Delphi 7 pro from Delphi 3 pro. The main reasons I want to upgrade are the BDE limitations and problems and a desire for better reporting than the stock QuickReports. Here are some of the problems I have encountered. Out of disk space errors on drives larger than 4G Other applications tampering with BDE settings Windows temp variable has too many characters Some query performance is really slow General quirkiness of QuickReports Questions: Are the new database tools going to have similar problems so that I should consider a 3rd party solution? How difficult will it be to change from the BDE to the new database tools? (I have 2 programs I am most concerned about. They use about 35 tables and queries each.) I am assuming the new package will handle XP anomalies and be able to deal with large hard drives. Yes? Can I expect performance improvement? Is there a better reporting tool included with Delphi 7 or will I need 3rd party? I have been using Youseful for setup programs because I liked the way it handled Alias setups. Is there a better install tool in v7 than the InstallSheild light that came with v3? Is there anything else I need to be aware of? Thanks much in advance Back to top Ignacio Vazquez Guest Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 3 Pro upgrade to 7 "TCClayPot" <NoSpammhyrman (AT) gtii (DOT) com> wrote in message 3f8444c0$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Are the new database tools going to have similar problems so that I should consider a 3rd party solution? Both ADO and dbExpress are reliable enough that you should be fine with them in most cases. Quote: How difficult will it be to change from the BDE to the new database tools? (I have 2 programs I am most concerned about. They use about 35 tables and queries each.) Fairly easy as long as you don't depend on Paradox tables. It's just a matter of switching the TDatabase, TTable, and TQuery components. Quote: I am assuming the new package will handle XP anomalies and be able to deal with large hard drives. Yes? Somewaht to the former, yes to the latter. XP will always cause problems, but less than what you're probably seeing. Quote: Can I expect performance improvement? Some, yes. Especially on the database part. Quote: Is there a better reporting tool included with Delphi 7 or will I need 3rd party? Yes and yes. D7 comes with both QR and Rave, but I've found FastReport to be simpler to use than Rave. Quote: I have been using Youseful for setup programs because I liked the way it handled Alias setups. Is there a better install tool in v7 than the InstallSheild light that came with v3? No. Quote: Is there anything else I need to be aware of? There are lots of bugs in it , but they're documented at http://qc.borland.com/. In fact, there are enough bugs that others may advise you to try to find D5 instead. Are they right? I don't know, but I'm reasonably happy with D7. Cheers, Ignacio -- No, don't send me e-mail directly. No, just don't. Back to top TCClayPot Guest Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 3 Pro upgrade to 7 Thanks for all the useful information. Unfortunately I have been using Paradox tables. What is the extra hassle with these tables? Does Delphi 5 come with the improvements I'm looking for? Thanks again "Ignacio Vazquez" <ivazquezATorioncommunications.com> wrote Quote: "TCClayPot" <NoSpammhyrman (AT) gtii (DOT) com> wrote in message 3f8444c0$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Are the new database tools going to have similar problems so that I should consider a 3rd party solution? Both ADO and dbExpress are reliable enough that you should be fine with them in most cases. How difficult will it be to change from the BDE to the new database tools? (I have 2 programs I am most concerned about. They use about 35 tables and queries each.) Fairly easy as long as you don't depend on Paradox tables. It's just a matter of switching the TDatabase, TTable, and TQuery components. I am assuming the new package will handle XP anomalies and be able to deal with large hard drives. Yes? Somewaht to the former, yes to the latter. XP will always cause problems, but less than what you're probably seeing. Can I expect performance improvement? Some, yes. Especially on the database part. Is there a better reporting tool included with Delphi 7 or will I need 3rd party? Yes and yes. D7 comes with both QR and Rave, but I've found FastReport to be simpler to use than Rave. I have been using Youseful for setup programs because I liked the way it handled Alias setups. Is there a better install tool in v7 than the InstallSheild light that came with v3? No. Is there anything else I need to be aware of? There are lots of bugs in it , but they're documented at http://qc.borland.com/. In fact, there are enough bugs that others may advise you to try to find D5 instead. Are they right? I don't know, but I'm reasonably happy with D7. Cheers, Ignacio -- No, don't send me e-mail directly. No, just don't. Back to top Ignacio Vazquez Guest Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 3 Pro upgrade to 7 "TCClayPot" <NoSpammhyrman (AT) gtii (DOT) com> wrote in message [email]3f845a50 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com[/email]... Quote: Thanks for all the useful information. Unfortunately I have been using Paradox tables. What is the extra hassle with these tables? No hassle, just the fact that the structure of Paradox tables isn't really public knowledge and so there aren't really very many tools other than Paradox and the BDE that work with them. An easy solution would be to switch to Firebird Embedded. It supports everything program-wise that the BDE does, but better since it's being actively developed. You'd have to move the data from the Paradox tables to the Firebird database, but after that it's a breeze. http://firebird.sourceforge.net/ Quote: Does Delphi 5 come with the improvements I'm looking for? For the most part, yes. It's not "certified", officially or otherwise, to work with XP, but there are people using it in that environment. Cheers, Ignacio -- No, don't send me e-mail directly. No, just don't. 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