BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 3 to 7          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Janet Miller Guest Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:52 pm    Post subject: Delphi 3 to 7 For a while I've been telling my managers I need to upgrade my D3 applications because D3 is no longer supported. This may be a lie, but it's the impression I got at BorCon2002. I've worked on applications in D1-7 and managed to keep most of them upgraded during other program enhancements. I still have 2 applications in D3 that have a few third party components and are big enough that I can't upgrade them 'in my spare time'. Am I correct in thinking an upgrade is a good idea if we plan to use the applications for a few more years? Can you tell me the real status of D3 support? If I push for D7 instead of a completely different tool, is D7 likely to be supported long enough for the manager pushing for the other tool to move on? Are there any advantages/disadvantages I should bring to my manager's attention? I think all the users have Window 2000. Both apps use BDE connections to an Oracle database. One uses QuickReport and one uses the TCRPE version 8.3 component to Crystal Reports. Thanks. jMiller Back to top Brion L. Webster Guest Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 3 to 7 Janet Miller wrote: Quote: For a while I've been telling my managers I need to upgrade my D3 applications because D3 is no longer supported. This may be a lie, but it's the impression I got at BorCon2002. I've worked on applications in D1-7 and managed to keep most of them upgraded during other program enhancements. I still have 2 applications in D3 that have a few third party components and are big enough that I can't upgrade them 'in my spare time'. Am I correct in thinking an upgrade is a good idea if we plan to use the applications for a few more years? Can you tell me the real status of D3 support? If I push for D7 instead of a completely different tool, is D7 likely to be supported long enough for the manager pushing for the other tool to move on? Are there any advantages/disadvantages I should bring to my manager's attention? I think all the users have Window 2000. Both apps use BDE connections to an Oracle database. One uses QuickReport and one uses the TCRPE version 8.3 component to Crystal Reports. Delphi 3.01, the service pack on a CD, seems to be generally unavailable. I don't know if you can call and pay for support on Delphi 3, you might possibly get a custom code fix, but it won't be released in any other service packs. The BDE SQL Links are unsupported, so BDE->Oracle is a bad idea. If you purchase D7 (quick) and get Software Assurance, you'll get two or three free support incidents (assuming you care about such a thing). You'll also get ADO, which makes a handy drop-in replacement for the BDE. I'd stick with Crystal 8 or 8.5 for VCL-based Crystal Reports development. Quick Reports is not installed by default in D7, but it's available on the disk somewhere, I think. If you don't have to do maintenance on the D3 apps, then don't worry about it, they'll probably work on every Windows from here to 2050. But if you have to do maintenance, or actually add new features, it would probably be beneficial to move them along to whatever the current Win32 IDE is. Finally, I don't think Borland officially monitors this group - for an official "support" answer you'll probably have to call Scotts Valley. -Brion Back to top Yorai Aminov (TeamB) Guest Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 3 to 7 On 27/02/2004 20:52:46, Janet Miller wrote: Quote: Can you tell me the real status of D3 support? Delphi 3 is indeed no longer supported. See Borland's support policy at http://support.borland.com/support_info/supportedVersionPolicy.asp. -- Yorai Aminov (TeamB) (TeamB cannot answer questions received via email.) Shorter Path - http://www.shorterpath.com Yorai's Page - http://www.yoraispage.com Back to top Janet Miller Guest Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 3 to 7 Thanks. I currently have all the software so purchasing is not an issue, except for the 3rd-party components. I'll see what they have in mind for enhancements and go from there. jMiller Back to top Brion L. Webster Guest Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 3 to 7 Janet Miller wrote: Quote: Thanks. I currently have all the software so purchasing is not an issue, except for the 3rd-party components. I'll see what they have in mind for enhancements and go from there. jMiller I wondered about that - how can you stand remembering the different IDE's? It's hard enough for me to go back and forth between 5, 6, and 7 that I finally just moved everything to 7. -Brion Back to top Leo Saguisag (Borland) Guest Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 3 to 7 Quote: Finally, I don't think Borland officially monitors this group Yep, that's correct. The newsgroups are supposed to be a user / peer supported area. Any posts from Borland people here are usually done when we have some free moments. We do our best to monitor newsgroups to provide support on issues, and to get feedback from our end users, but if you want official support then you will need to get a hold of our Tech Support people directly. 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