BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Jiter Guest Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:47 pm    Post subject: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine We are doing large project (transition from Windows to Linux) but some windows boxes will be reused. Delphi and Kylix seems to be an ideal cross-platform solution for us and a way of accomplishing interoperability with legacy Window. I come across this image "RDesktop to a windows XP machine, and in the background is Delphi 7 running under Wine" http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/screenshots/mdk100-scr4.jpg http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fscreenshots.php3 I have three questions: 1.What are the steps to install and run Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine? 2.Where I can purchase Delphi 7? 3.Is it posible to run Delphi 5 on Linux under Wine? TIA Jiter Back to top damian marquez Guest Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine Jiter <nomail (AT) borland (DOT) newsgroups.com> wrote: Quote: I have three questions: 1.What are the steps to install and run Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine? 2.Where I can purchase Delphi 7? 3.Is it posible to run Delphi 5 on Linux under Wine? TIA Jiter 1. Don't have the specifics for Delphi, but once I tried Wine in Linux (por a compiled app not Delphi itself) and what I would do in your case would be to run the wine executable passing as parameter the Delphi setup.exe program. Nothing else should be required in general. winehq.com have all the necessary steps in any case. I think wine comes preinstalled in all the complete installations like Mandrake else you can download from wine web site. 2. At the moment, I guess that Ebay (be careful), some Borland representative around the world who are giving copies at lower costs (see other thread about this) or bundled with Delphi 2005 (be careful again, I think most SKUs don't bring it, not sure about this though) 3. See http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=42&versionId=2325 -- Have you seen Marillion's Marbles? Visit www.marillion.com and get in touch with the most amazing music... Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine Jiter wrote: Quote: We are doing large project (transition from Windows to Linux) but some windows boxes will be reused. Delphi and Kylix seems to be an ideal cross-platform solution for us and a way of accomplishing interoperability with legacy Window. http://www.transgaming.com/latest_news.php may also be of interest, my own experience of wine was not as good as I had hoped, even simple apps often failed. Whereas cedega seems to run even the more intensive of games. Id try running it for you but my linux box is text only.. its a server I didnt bother with x.. I dont even think its graphics card is much capable of anything other than text .. :) Back to top Peter Morris [Air Softwar Guest Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine Quote: 2.Where I can purchase Delphi 7? Be aware that people cannot sell their license of D7 if they have registered it. Quote: 3.Is it posible to run Delphi 5 on Linux under Wine? Pavel, the guy who now manages the DirectSound project "BASS" once showed me screenshots of Delphi 5 running on Linux. I wasn't really interested because I couldn't care less about Linux, but now look, I have found a use for that seemingly useless information after all :-) -- Pete ==== Audio compression components, DIB graphics controls, FastStrings http://www.droopyeyes.com Read or write articles on just about anything http://www.HowToDoThings.com My blog http://blogs.slcdug.org/petermorris/ Back to top Charles McAllister Guest Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:12 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine "Peter Morris [Air Software Ltd]" <peter.morris (AT) remove (DOT) this.airsoftware.co.uk> wrote Quote: 2.Where I can purchase Delphi 7? Be aware that people cannot sell their license of D7 if they have registered it. I knew that if you upgraded your copy of D7, that you couldn't sell it, but merely registering it prevents selling the license? are you sure? Back to top tony caduto Guest Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine I had D6 running under wine about a year ago, and it worked pretty good as long as you didn't use the debugger, it would totally puke if you tried to put a break point in. But that was awhile ago, so it may work much better now. Tony Jiter wrote: Quote: We are doing large project (transition from Windows to Linux) but some windows boxes will be reused. Delphi and Kylix seems to be an ideal cross-platform solution for us and a way of accomplishing interoperability with legacy Window. I come across this image "RDesktop to a windows XP machine, and in the background is Delphi 7 running under Wine" http://images.mandrakesoft.com/img/screenshots/mdk100-scr4.jpg http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fscreenshots.php3 I have three questions: 1.What are the steps to install and run Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine? 2.Where I can purchase Delphi 7? 3.Is it posible to run Delphi 5 on Linux under Wine? TIA Jiter Back to top Peter Morris [Air Softwar Guest Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine Quote: I knew that if you upgraded your copy of D7, that you couldn't sell it, but merely registering it prevents selling the license? are you sure? Absolutely 100%. It says so in the license agreement "non transferrable". I phoned Borland UK and they confirmed it. -- Pete ==== Audio compression components, DIB graphics controls, FastStrings http://www.droopyeyes.com Read or write articles on just about anything http://www.HowToDoThings.com My blog http://blogs.slcdug.org/petermorris/ Back to top Martin Waldenburg Guest Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine Peter Morris [Air Software Ltd] wrote: Quote: Absolutely 100%. It says so in the license agreement "non transferrable". this "non transferrable" is not legal in large parts of the world. Martin Back to top John Herbster Guest Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine "Peter Morris [Air Software Ltd]" <peter.morris (AT) remove (DOT) this.airsoftware.co.uk> wrote Quote: I knew that if you upgraded your copy of D7, that you couldn't sell it, but merely registering it prevents selling the license? are you sure? Absolutely 100%. It says so in the license agreement "non transferrable". I phoned Borland UK and they confirmed it. In the USA license for D7, it says "13.5 Assignment. You may not transfer the Software media, assign this License or assign any of your rights or delegate any of your obligations under this License, by operation of law or otherwise (including by merger, sale of assets or consolidation), without Borland's prior written consent. Any attempted assignment in violation of this Section 13.5 will be void." --JohnH Back to top Mat Ballard Guest Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine Jiter wrote: .... Quote: 3.Is it posible to run Delphi 5 on Linux under Wine? don't know about Wine, but it ran pretty well under Win4Lin: http://www.chemwares.com/developers/index.html even the debugger worked (kinda). there's a cute screenshot here: http://www.chemwares.com/developers/images/Delphi-Kylix.png Win4Lin requires a legal Win9x, and hence has its limitations, but on a fast machine will boot in 2-5 seconds. cheers, Mat Back to top Steve Tyrakowski Guest Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi 7 on Linux under Wine In article <41ce2583$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, Tony caduto wrote: Quote: I had D6 running under wine about a year ago, and it worked pretty good as long as you didn't use the debugger, it would totally puke if you tried to put a break point in. But that was awhile ago, so it may work much better now. A year ago I tried to get D5 to run under Wine and it kind of worked. However, there was a major problem in that the focused window did not go to the top of the screen. For example, switching between the form and source code did not bring the focused window to the front. We've been more successful getting Delphi apps to run under Wine. 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