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Wayne & Carr
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 Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject: Delphi 8 Ent. & Delphi 2005 Ent. |
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Hello All;
Delphi 8 [Windows]
Delphi 2005 [Windows & .NET]
The above statements, (Correct me if I am wrong, just wanting to check out
Which would be the best one to get)
Delphi 8 = You can only develop Windows based programs, NO .NET
Delphi 2005 = You can develop both, .NET & Windows
Is this correct?
And if so, I would like to have some opinions from those using either of
these 2 versions.
#1: D2005 = Has come out with a SP2 now. Do this SP2 fix some of the Major
issues.
That I have read about in this group?
#2: D8 = What updates (or) SP's are available for this Version, and what do
they Fix/Correct in the IDE And Interface?
#3: D8 & D2005 = Installation issues, I have read some horror stories on
here
About installing D2005. Does D8 have these same issues?
And what to look out for when installing either of these 2 Versions?
Thanks All;
Wayne
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Marcel Bestebroer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Delphi 8 Ent. & Delphi 2005 Ent. |
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Wayne & Carr wrote:
| Quote: | Hello All;
Delphi 8 [Windows]
Delphi 2005 [Windows & .NET]
The above statements, (Correct me if I am wrong, just wanting to check out
Which would be the best one to get)
Delphi 8 = You can only develop Windows based programs, NO .NET
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Exactly the opposite: D8= .NET only, no Win32 (but D7 is provided
for Win32).
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Delphi 2005 = You can develop both, .NET & Windows
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Yes (.NET in both Delphi language as well as C#)
| Quote: | And if so, I would like to have some opinions from those using either of
these 2 versions.
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If you want .NET, skip D8.
| Quote: | #3: D8 & D2005 = Installation issues, I have read some horror stories on
here
About installing D2005. Does D8 have these same issues?
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The only problems occur if one installed D2k5 and update 1 released
in december. If you buy D2k%, install it and then immediately install
update 2 (without update 1), things should go smoothly.
| Quote: | And what to look out for when installing either of these 2 Versions?
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Download the Delphi Configuration Manager if you want to use D2k5.
It allows you to create start-up profiles for win32 only and .NET only.
This reduces memory usage. DCM can be downloaded from:
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~jed/dcm.htm
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Marcel Bestebroer (Team JEDI) http://delphi-jedi.org
Project JEDI Help coordinator
JEDI.NET team coordinator
To mail me, remove the obvious from my mail address
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Wayne & Carr
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Delphi 8 Ent. & Delphi 2005 Ent. |
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Thank you: ["Marcel Bestebroer"];
I will keep all the information in mind.
You mention that D7 gives both Win32 & .NET.
I prefer to jump over to D2k5, so this will most likely by the platform
That I take. Mainly for the .NET programming.
As I do want to learn it, and do some more advanced projects with .NET.
Maybe one day, converting some of my recent projects over to .NET
So when I get ready to learn the .NET platform, I will ask in here about
links that will cover what I will need to know to get started.
Take Care and Thanks once again.
Wayne
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Marcel Bestebroer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Delphi 8 Ent. & Delphi 2005 Ent. |
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Wayne & Carr wrote:
| Quote: | Thank you: ["Marcel Bestebroer"];
I will keep all the information in mind.
You mention that D7 gives both Win32 & .NET.
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No, I didn't. D8 is for .NET only, but the package contains D7
(which is Win32 only).
| Quote: | I prefer to jump over to D2k5, so this will most likely by the platform
That I take. Mainly for the .NET programming.
As I do want to learn it, and do some more advanced projects with .NET.
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Depends kind of what route you take. As I understand it, porting a
VCL application to VCL.NET isn't that much work (I've never done this
though). If you want to drop VCL, then it's gonna take quite some work.
| Quote: | Maybe one day, converting some of my recent projects over to .NET
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Make sure that any 3rd-party components you use are also provided
for D2k5 (or that you at least have sources so you can attempt to
compile stuff and see what needs to be changed).
--
Marcel Bestebroer (Team JEDI) http://delphi-jedi.org
Project JEDI Help coordinator
JEDI.NET team coordinator
To mail me, remove the obvious from my mail address
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Dennis Landi
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Delphi 8 Ent. & Delphi 2005 Ent. |
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"Wayne & Carr" <spam (AT) spam (DOT) net> wrote
| Quote: | Thank you: ["Marcel Bestebroer"];
I will keep all the information in mind.
You mention that D7 gives both Win32 & .NET.
I prefer to jump over to D2k5, so this will most likely by the platform
That I take. Mainly for the .NET programming.
As I do want to learn it, and do some more advanced projects with .NET.
Maybe one day, converting some of my recent projects over to .NET
So when I get ready to learn the .NET platform, I will ask in here about
links that will cover what I will need to know to get started.
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D7 Only does Win32.
D8 Only does .NET
D2005 does D/Win32, D.NET and C#.
AFAIK, you can no longer buy D7 from Borland, period.
Avoid D8 like the plague (even if you can stil buy it).
D2005 with the 2nd update, is a very good product. I wouldn't hesitate to
buy D2005 if you don't already have D7. If you have D7 (which is
excellent), then I would consider buying D2005 because of the added .NET
functionality and some of the IDE/Refactoring goodies (which are very nice,
but not essential). Of course, If you are interested in Borland .NET
offerings then D2005 is an easy sell.
Although I had stability problems with the original release of D2005, the
2nd update seems to have fixed the stability problems for me. YMMV.
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Wayne & Carr
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:01 am Post subject: Re: Delphi 8 Ent. & Delphi 2005 Ent. |
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["Marcel Bestebroer" ]
| Quote: | No, I didn't. D8 is for .NET only, but the package contains D7
(which is Win32 only).
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Opps, Sorry, just misunderstood what you wrote ;-)
| Quote: | Make sure that any 3rd-party components you use are also provided
for D2k5 (or that you at least have sources so you can attempt to
compile stuff and see what needs to be changed).
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Nearly ever component that I have has source.
Some even work with D2k5 as well. So that will be no problem on
At least compiling them.
Any idea's on rather or not " TEmbeddedWB" is going to be available for
D2k5? Or if Borland has finally added it into the Program? (Which I doubt,
just hoping)
Wayne
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Wayne & Carr
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:02 am Post subject: Re: Delphi 8 Ent. & Delphi 2005 Ent. |
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Hello ["Dennis Landi"]
Thanks for the usefully & helpful information that you provided.
I am looking in on a purchase right now, so will have to wait and see.
Take Care & Thank You
Wayne
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