BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi Bugs Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 57, 58, 59  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Max Guest Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Delphi Bugs Yesterday I have reported a freepascal bug. Today: its fixed! Bugs reported to qc are open since over a year! What is the reason that Borland does not fix them? Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs "Max" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: Yesterday I have reported a freepascal bug. Today: its fixed! Bugs reported to qc are open since over a year! What is the reason that Borland does not fix them? Because Borland cares about doing little things like regression testing which the freepascal people obviously don't (or else have such a small set of regression tests as to make them worthless). Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Max wrote: Quote: Yesterday I have reported a freepascal bug. Today: its fixed! Bugs reported to qc are open since over a year! That's so absurdly anecdotal as to be useless. Are you trying to assert that FreePascal is more stable than Delphi's compiler? Because if so, you aren't doing a very good job of it. -Craig -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Want to help make Delphi and InterBase better? Use QC! http://qc.borland.com -- Vote for important issues Back to top Max Guest Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Regression testing is a reason not to do it ???? "Jeff Overcash (TeamB)" <jeffovercash (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:41054314$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "Max" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Yesterday I have reported a freepascal bug. Today: its fixed! Bugs reported to qc are open since over a year! What is the reason that Borland does not fix them? Because Borland cares about doing little things like regression testing which the freepascal people obviously don't (or else have such a small set of regression tests as to make them worthless). Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Max wrote: Quote: Regression testing is a reason not to do it ???? Not doing proper regression testing is a reason not to use the fix. In other words, what assurance to you have that the "fix" doens't break existing code in insidious ways? -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Sanford Aranoff Guest Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs "Craig Stuntz [TeamB]" wrote: Quote: Max wrote: Yesterday I have reported a freepascal bug. Today: its fixed! Bugs reported to qc are open since over a year! It is too hard for them to fix the bugs. Maybe they should hire real programmers! Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs "Max" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: Regression testing is a reason not to do it ???? So how many things did the "fix" break? If you use FreePascal I guess you don't have any clue. Borland doesn't jsut throw things out at their customers, they make sure it goes through a complete testing process to minimize the possibility of breaking other code with a fix. This takes time, definitely more than 24 hours in the case of Delphi. If you don't want quality control then I guess the free pascal method is for you, for most people they want some sort of QA done on patches. Back to top Bob Guest Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Quote: That's so absurdly anecdotal as to be useless. Are you trying to assert that FreePascal is more stable than Delphi's compiler? Because if so, you aren't doing a very good job of it. No, he was asserting that he had better "customer service" from the open source product that he receives from Borland. I can sympathise -- I was nailed last year by a language bug (TRY-FINALLY in functions can wipe out the return value) that was basic to the very definition of the language: I would consider a language bug to be of the highest priority. Notwithstanding this, Borland has done nothing with it so far (not even a caveat in the ReadMe documents). Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Bob wrote: Quote: I was nailed last year by a language bug (TRY-FINALLY in functions can wipe out the return value) that was basic to the very definition of the language: I would consider a language bug to be of the highest priority. What's the QC number? I'd like to see that one in action. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Bob Dawson Guest Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs "Bob" wrote Quote: [...] (TRY-FINALLY in functions can wipe out the return value) You have a piece of demo code for this? I use try finally a lot. bobD Back to top Leonel Guest Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:20 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Nick Hodges [TeamB] wrote: Quote: What's the QC number? QC#3681 -- Leonel http://www.techtips.com.br "Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand." - Martin Fowler Back to top Leonel Guest Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Bob wrote: Quote: Notwithstanding this, Borland has done nothing with it so far (not even a caveat in the ReadMe documents). Good news, it's been fixed in 7.1. Look at QC. -- Leonel http://www.techtips.com.br "Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand." - Martin Fowler Back to top Bob Guest Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Quote: What's the QC number? I'd like to see that one in action. http://qc.borland.com/wc/wc.exe/details?reportid=6590 Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Leonel wrote: Quote: QC#3681 Interestingly, it's marked fixed. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi Bugs Bob wrote: Quote: http://qc.borland.com/wc/wc.exe/details?reportid=6590 Fixed in the D7 update, I gather. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 57, 58, 59  Next Page 1 of 59   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.