BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi - Dead - Dying - Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message D-Fan Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Delphi - Dead - Dying - With the negative tones floating around out there about Delphi it seems as though Delphi is dying even if it is not. It would be nice to see Borland make sufficient positive news about Delphi that the tone of this newsgroup becomes posisive. Back to top Atle Smelvær Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - When D2006 is released, and if it shows to be stable and fast, then I guess these negative tones will disappear. Until then I don't think you can do mutch about it. -Atle Back to top Joe Hendricks Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - I sure wish the server would autodelete any thread containing the word 'dead' - until trolls find more creative wording, they should be excluded from public consumption.. JoeH Back to top Brion L. Webster Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi - <fallen> - <moribund> - Joe Hendricks wrote: Quote: I sure wish the server would autodelete any thread containing the word 'd3@d' - until trolls find more creative wording, they should be excluded from public consumption.. Hm... how hard is it to find a thesaurus nowadays? http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/thesaurus?book=Thesaurus&va=dead&x=14&y=8 Extra points if you actually look at the Subject... ;-) -Brion Back to top Joe Hendricks Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi - <fallen> - <moribund> - "Brion L. Webster" <brion.webster (AT) nospam (DOT) ci.fresno.ca.us> wrote Quote: Hm... how hard is it to find a thesaurus nowadays? lol ! I think minimum effort is the trolls' mantra JoeH Back to top Crazy Horse's crazier lit Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - "D-Fan" <D-Fan (AT) TheAntiSpam (DOT) com> wrote Quote: With the negative tones floating around out there about Delphi it seems as though Delphi is dying even if it is not. It would be nice to see Borland make sufficient positive news about Delphi that the tone of this newsgroup becomes posisive. Jerks, idiots, and dipwads have been saying Delphi was dying for ten years now. Some of THEM have probably died, but Delphi is still here. No, that is not a threat. -- Download Blackbird Crow Raven's book "STILL CASTING SHADOWS: Two American Families 1620-2006" (.exe and .pdf): http://cc.borland.com/ccweb.exe/listing?id=23106 Back to top Msangali Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - Yesterday by the first time ever I saw more than 200 jobs for Delphi in Dice. I remember not too much time ago there was only about 100... Okay, this is not scientific, yadada, but these are real numbers nevertheless, and they go in the opposite direction to the "Delphi is dying" mantra we see so many times here. Oh, and that's OK, I know I have a high risk of beeing flammed by posting a good news here :-) Regards, Marco Back to top Peter Morris [Droopy eyes Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - Back in about 1996 I went for my first ever Delphi programmer job interview. The interviewer asked me how I felt about moving into a technology created by a company that was about to "go under". That's what, 9 years ago now? :-) Back to top Oliver Townshend Guest Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - Quote: That's what, 9 years ago now? Ditto. In 1996 I was told to develop a program in Informix New Era because Borland was about to go under. I ran into my ex-employer several years later, and he was very dark that Informix had pulled the plug on New Era. I refrained from the 'I told you so'. I came across the program the other day, it still works. Still one day Borland and Delphi will be gone, but the programs will live on for a long time yet. I think the warning sign will be when Developer Express and the like stop pushing new products for Delphi. Oliver Townshend Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - Oliver Townshend wrote: Quote: I think the warning sign will be when Developer Express and the like stop pushing new products for Delphi. For me it will be when Nick starts extolling the virtues of Visual Studio :-) -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "All right, brain. You don't like me and I don't like you, but let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer." - Homer Simpson Back to top somebody Guest Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - "Crazy Horse's crazier little brother" <cshannonKeinSpamBitteMitZuckerDrauf (AT) d4sw (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Jerks, idiots, and dipwads have been saying Delphi was dying for ten years now. That it wasn't true before doesn't mean it is not now. I'm not saying Delphi is dying (not because I am afraid of being targeted by your insults) but there's certainly a major crisis with two consecutive horrific initial releases (although with the 3 SPs, at least D2005 has become more than a doorstop) and disappointing financials and the voices of dissent within the shareholders contemplating an abandonment/split of development tools. I don't think Delphi will die, and one of the reasons is MS probably preferes some token professional competition. Back to top John Jacobson aka Captain Guest Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - D-Fan <D-Fan (AT) TheAntiSpam (DOT) com> wrote in message <42ea8805$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> Quote: With the negative tones floating around out there about Delphi it seems as though Delphi is dying even if it is not. Everything wrought by human hands is dying. Delphi is dying. VB is dying. Stem cell research is dying. Religion is dying. Atheism is dying. The president is dying. Time, the great thief, is stealing our lives away. So obviously, the question is not whether or not Delphi is dying. The question is how fast it is dying, relative to the alternatives. I think it is instructive to look at the things that Delphi has outlasted, despite cries that it was "dying". Here are just some things that were considered stronger and more likely to survive than Delphi, that have disappeared or become comatose instead of Delphi dying: 1) Visual Cafe 2) Visual Age for Java, Visual Age for C++, etc. 3) Symantec C++ 4) Optima++ 5) Clipper 6) DBase 7) Lotus123, LotusWorks WordPerfect 9) Ami Pro 10) WorldCom 11) Enron 12) Arthur Andersen 13) Watcom C++ (dumped into open source: http://www.openwatcom.org/ ) 14) Paradox 15) Quattro Pro 16) Michael Jackson's career 17) The World Trade Center 1 Saddam Hussein's reign in Iraq ....and so on.. -- Everything in this post is mere opinion. It might be very well formed opinion based on an uncanny grasp of the facts, but it remains opinion nevertheless. Here's where you'll find Absolute Truth: http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.1055 Back to top John Jacobson aka Captain Guest Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - Crazy Horse's crazier little brother <cshannonKeinSpamBitteMitZuckerDrauf (AT) d4sw (DOT) com> wrote in message <42ea9b4e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> Quote: Jerks, idiots, and dipwads have been saying Delphi was dying for ten years now. That sounds like the lyrics to a hokey country song Jerks, idiots and dipwads, Sayin' that Delphi's dyin', yeah. Morons, fools and charlatans, Prayin' that Borland's cryin', Bah! Oh gimme a home, Where the objects do roam. And the beer helps the jackelope code. Where seldom is heard, A discouraging nerd, And the IDE's are not buggy all day. -- Everything in this post is pure genius. It might be very well formed genius based on an uncanny grasp of the facts, but it remains genius nevertheless. Here's where you'll find Absolute Idiocy: http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.1055 Back to top John Jacobson aka Captain Guest Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - "Atle Smelvær" <atle (AT) datagrafikk (DOT) no> wrote in message <42ea8d2d (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> Quote: When D2006 is released, and if it shows to be stable and fast, then I guess these negative tones will disappear. LOL. Yeah, that would be a first. I remember the cries of "Delphi's dying!" being the loudest when Delphi was the most robust. -- Everything in this post is mere opinion. It might be very well formed opinion based on an uncanny grasp of the facts, but it remains opinion nevertheless. Here's where you'll find Absolute Truth: http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Posted with JSNewsreader-BETA 0.9.4.1055 Back to top John Jacobson aka Captain Guest Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi - Dead - Dying - D-Fan <D-Fan (AT) TheAntiSpam (DOT) com> wrote in message <42ea8805$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> Quote: it seems as though Delphi is dying even if it is not Except that his newsgroup is seeing a LOT of activity lately. -- Everything in this post is mere opinion. It might be very well formed opinion based on an uncanny grasp of the facts, but it remains opinion nevertheless. 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