BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi Informant R.I.P. Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Captain Jake Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject: Delphi Informant R.I.P. http://www.lemanix.com/nick/archive/2004/08/19/1121.aspx -- Read Jake's Blog at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Or Get the RSS Feed at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/Rss.aspx Everything contained in this post that is not quoted from others, is merely an opinion. It may be a well-informed opinion motivated by an uncanny grasp of facts and amazingly well-formulated theories, but it remains opinion nevertheless. I speak for nobody but myself, and even then I may get it wrong from time to time. Back to top Serge Dosyukov (Dragon So Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. Borland by itself should think about BDN magazine Borland already have authors, articles, ideas... It will be nice to get a new BDN site format... and to be able subscribe for BDN magazine... as printed version or e-magazine. Really, it is easy to have magazine-on-demand these days and there is just a small step to transfer BDN as a web-resource into BDN as a e-magazine. Another opportunity which Borland is not considering... it is source for developers, it is way to provide target advertising, it is just nice thing to have sometimes. "Captain Jake" <johnjac76 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote Quote: http://www.lemanix.com/nick/archive/2004/08/19/1121.aspx -- Read Jake's Blog at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Or Get the RSS Feed at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/Rss.aspx Everything contained in this post that is not quoted from others, is merely an opinion. It may be a well-informed opinion motivated by an uncanny grasp of facts and amazingly well-formulated theories, but it remains opinion nevertheless. I speak for nobody but myself, and even then I may get it wrong from time to time. Back to top Eric Grange Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. Quote: http://www.lemanix.com/nick/archive/2004/08/19/1121.aspx Sad, but not too surprising given the orientation the editorial line took a few years ago. Eric Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. Eric Grange wrote: Quote: Sad, but not too surprising given the orientation the editorial line took a few years ago. The more I think about it, the more I think it has to do with print media vs. web media. I really wonder if the print media can survive it its current form. Makes for an interesting discussion/thought exercise, I think. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Brion L. Webster Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. Nick Hodges [TeamB] wrote: Quote: Eric Grange wrote: Sad, but not too surprising given the orientation the editorial line took a few years ago. The more I think about it, the more I think it has to do with print media vs. web media. I really wonder if the print media can survive it its current form. Makes for an interesting discussion/thought exercise, I think. FWIW, whenever I'm given free trade rag subscriptions, I *always* select printed material over web material. Especially for "casual browsing", I don't want to be tied to a PC, and Delphi Informant, or even BDN, would fall into that category. I'd much rather browse through the printed material while I'm eating breakfast, or relaxing on the couch. I've never paid for access to on-line tech stuff - that just wouldn't be worth it. Then again, I suspect that the same people who are OK with electronic docs delivery are OK with electronic magazines, and they seem to be winning (witness the recurring arguments wrt Borland docs, and where Borland went). -Brion Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. Brion L. Webster wrote: Quote: Then again, I suspect that the same people who are OK with electronic docs delivery are OK with electronic magazines, and they seem to be winning (witness the recurring arguments wrt Borland docs, and where Borland went). Well, I don't think it is quite that simple. I think we all like to have a magazine to hold, but as far as reference material, magazines have much lower value. If you are sitting at your computer programming, I'll bet you don't very often go to the shelf and riffle through your DI backissues to find an answer to a question. For instance, in working on my Borcon papers, I found Google to be utterly indispensible. I found almost overwhelming amounts of information in articles and people's blogs on the web. And it is very timely, too, as many of the article and blog entries were written in the last two weeks. Contrast that with the last issue of DI. My column that appears in that issue was written about three months ago. I think there is room for /some/ magazines, but I think it is indisputable that Google is reducing the market for physical magazines, and of course magazines on the margin are the ones that feel that first. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. Nick Hodges [TeamB] wrote: Quote: The more I think about it, the more I think it has to do with print media vs. web media. I really wonder if the print media can survive it its current form. I think that print media will do fine if it supplies material which can't be found online. IOW, print publishers have to adapt to the changed information environment. -Craig -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Please read and follow Borland's rules for the user of their news server: http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top Xavier Pacheco Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. The only online publications I've subscribed to were the WSJ and the NYTimes. Other than that, I can't say I've ever considered subscribing to an online publication. Personally, I prefer the magazine over the online content (I can browse through the mag on the throne, plane, etc). I do agree, however, that print media is struggling. I struggle paying for web media and perhaps that's because I can always find an answer without having to pay. Sometimes I do a google search and and up on a page that gives a summary of an article that claims to address what I'm looking for. I'll just skip it and will grab the free content from another site or google groups a few clicks later. - x -- Xavier Pacheco Xapware Technologies Inc www.xapware.com --- Author - Delphi for .NET Developer's Guide http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672324431/ Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. "Xavier Pacheco" <xavier (AT) _nospam_xapware (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Personally, I prefer the magazine over the online content (I can browse through the mag on the throne, plane, etc). I never read on the throne or on planes, though it seems to me that both would be ideal for that purpose. But I still buy books. The programming related ones tend to be books about design and methodology. I think this is because I don't feel that these topics do well in the Short-Attention-Span-Theater that is the internet. I buy books for those things I can't get online, like Stephen King novels, which I have only recently discovered tend to be far far better than the movies they spawn. Quote: I do agree, however, that print media is struggling. I struggle paying for web media and perhaps that's because I can always find an answer without having to pay. Sometimes I do a google search and and up on a page that gives a summary of an article that claims to address what I'm looking for. I'll just skip it and will grab the free content from another site or google groups a few clicks later. The internet is a truly amazing resource when you think about it. The sheer volume of information and opinion that is available via just a few clicks is staggering. If you were to show someone from 1985 the internet of today, they would be flabbergasted. I think this really helps Delphi a lot by the way, though maybe not Delphi authors, come to think of it! -- Read Jake's Blog at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Or Get the RSS Feed at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/Rss.aspx Everything contained in this post that is not quoted from others, is merely an opinion. It may be a well-informed opinion motivated by an uncanny grasp of facts and amazingly well-formulated theories, but it remains opinion nevertheless. I speak for nobody but myself, and even then I may get it wrong from time to time. Back to top Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. "Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <nickhodges (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes: Quote: I think there is room for /some/ magazines, but I think it is indisputable that Google is reducing the market for physical magazines, and of course magazines on the margin are the ones that feel that first. There was an interesting article a little while back about how research published in paper (magazines and books) is cited much less than before. With Google indexing .pdfs and other whitepapers that are online, there is a big research shift happening to prefer online papers. It makes sense for a few reasons. Ease being one. But I know for magazine "back issues", I'd rather have 10 years on a single CD than taking a whole bookshelf in some room. -- Chris (TeamB); Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) wrote: Quote: But I know for magazine "back issues", I'd rather have 10 years on a single CD than taking a whole bookshelf in some room. Indeed. I'm far more likely to search the site at http://www.delphizine.com than I am to go through the magazines on my shelf. I will say, though, that I /have/ gone back and pulled the issue off of the shelf /after/ having searched for the article on the web. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top Per Larsen Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. "Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft)" <serge[no_spam]ATdragonsoftru.com> wrote in message news:412624cb$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Borland by itself should think about BDN magazine Actually, they used to publish a programmer's magazine waaay back. I forget the name of it, but I don't believe I've seen anything quite as good neither before nor since. I don't know why they stopped doing it, but it was free for the asking, and the funding probably just got cut. - Per Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. "Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <nickhodges (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I will say, though, that I /have/ gone back and pulled the issue off of the shelf /after/ having searched for the article on the web. Print material has another advantage, in that years later when you are cleaning out a few boxes, you can sit down and read about the latest and greatest of years gone by. A few years ago I was cleaning up a bunch of magazines and across copies of PC magazine from 1995. It was interesting to see the prices and what was considered the latest and greatest in PC hardware. -- Read Jake's Blog at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Or Get the RSS Feed at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/Rss.aspx Everything contained in this post that is not quoted from others, is merely an opinion. It may be a well-informed opinion motivated by an uncanny grasp of facts and amazingly well-formulated theories, but it remains opinion nevertheless. I speak for nobody but myself, and even then I may get it wrong from time to time. Back to top Serge Dosyukov (Dragon So Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. and it might be a good time to make it alive again... seeing latest promotion activity for Delphi "Per Larsen" <perATportablemindsDOTcom> wrote Quote: "Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft)" <serge[no_spam]ATdragonsoftru.com> wrote in message news:412624cb$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Borland by itself should think about BDN magazine Actually, they used to publish a programmer's magazine waaay back. I forget the name of it, but I don't believe I've seen anything quite as good neither before nor since. I don't know why they stopped doing it, but it was free for the asking, and the funding probably just got cut. - Per Back to top Per Larsen Guest Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi Informant R.I.P. "Nick Hodges [TeamB]" <nickhodges (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: The more I think about it, the more I think it has to do with print media vs. web media. Not in my case. I let my personal subscription to Delphi Informant Magazine (DIM among friends) expire years ago. The content was just too light to justify the price - both in volume and depth. I should probably point out here that I believe this was before you started writing for them :) By contrast, I kept my subscription to the - much more expensive - Delphi Magazine until we stopped using Delphi for new development at work. I still subscribe to the paper version of MSDN Magazine even though it's available on line, and I expect to continue to do so. Others may have different habits, but I hardly ever read background articles while sitting at the computer. There are too many high-priority things that need to be taken care of there. Paper magazines on the other hand can be read while lying in bed, sitting in the yard, or whatever. - Per Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next Page 1 of 7   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.