BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Delphi8          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Carlos Matos Guest Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:30 pm    Post subject: Delphi8 Hi, I'm using Delphi7 Enterprise and I am considering to buy Delphi8 .NET, but at the present day I'm not thinking on moving all my applications to ..NET framework. So, what I want to know is: 1 - What are really the main benefits to move to the .NET framework? 2 - About projects Longhorn and Avalon, will I benefit on moving to .NET as soon as possible, e.g., right now, with Delphi8? I never miss a Delphi version since Delphi2 and until the present day I allways took advantages from this policy of mine. With Delphi8, since that there isn't a Delphi8 for Win32, will I take any risks if I do not move to .NET now, but later, regarding all my code and future plataforms? Thanks, -- Carlos Matos Comograma - Programação Informática, Lda. Morada / Address: Urb.Vale Verde Lote 34 - Loja - 3040 Coimbra Telefone / Phone: +351 239 802 340-8, Fax: +351 293 802 349 Web: www.comograma.pt Back to top Guest Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi8 Yes, indeed a very important question. ->What will .NET do for us - especially for those of us not doing web applications? ->Will D8.NET application e.g. run on a PDA? ->Is this the end of Borlands long time as the best compiler/IDE for native Windows code (and Linux and DOS too, not to forget)? ->Will everything be .NET in the future? ->Can anyone guide us to an understandable list of all the benefits of .NET? I am looking forward to some answers to these questions, Jens. Back to top Yves Guéna Guest Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi8 Hi, Delphi 8 is a marketing name. I would have prefer Delphi # 1. <j.munk (AT) XremoveXthisXmaccor (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news:3fe2f24f (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Yes, indeed a very important question. ->What will .NET do for us - especially for those of us not doing web applications? ->Will D8.NET application e.g. run on a PDA? ->Is this the end of Borlands long time as the best compiler/IDE for native Windows code (and Linux and DOS too, not to forget)? ->Will everything be .NET in the future? ->Can anyone guide us to an understandable list of all the benefits of ..NET? I am looking forward to some answers to these questions, Jens. Back to top Rob Judd Guest Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi8 [email]j.munk (AT) XremoveXthisXmaccor (DOT) com[/email] wrote: Quote: Yes, indeed a very important question. ->What will .NET do for us - especially for those of us not doing web applications? ->Will D8.NET application e.g. run on a PDA? ->Is this the end of Borlands long time as the best compiler/IDE for native Windows code (and Linux and DOS too, not to forget)? ->Will everything be .NET in the future? ->Can anyone guide us to an understandable list of all the benefits of .NET? I am looking forward to some answers to these questions, It's Yet Another MS Marketing Ploy. There's nothing special about it at all. Borland jumped on the bandwagon because Bill (one of their major shareholders now) told them to. Rob Back to top Olivier Beltrami Guest Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi8 Quote: ->What will .NET do for us - especially for those of us not doing web applications? The .NET name is a marketing gimmick. I don't do web applications, but .NET is very exciting. What it should have been called is "Win32 API++". What .NET is is a total re-write of the Windows API, one that is now OOP, consistent and very Delphi-like (after all, MS plucked Delphi creator from Borland to develop that framework). The fact that they have made this API theoretically portable to other platforms is nice, but the important thing is that .NET means a thorough clean-up of the mess that is the current API. And, starting with longhorn, the .NET framework will be "the" native Windows API. In a sense it is funny that all the MS ads about .NET target web stuff and end-users, because in my opinion, the one who will really benefit are Windows developpers. Olivier Back to top Guest Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Delphi8 Hmm... That's kind of what I expected. One question remians: Will .NET applications developed with Delphi 8 run on a PDA? If so I might also consider start playing with it. Jens. "Olivier Beltrami" <obeltrami at wanadoo dot fr> wrote Quote: ->What will .NET do for us - especially for those of us not doing web applications? The .NET name is a marketing gimmick. I don't do web applications, but ..NET is very exciting. What it should have been called is "Win32 API++". What .NET is is a total re-write of the Windows API, one that is now OOP, consistent and very Delphi-like (after all, MS plucked Delphi creator from Borland to develop that framework). The fact that they have made this API theoretically portable to other platforms is nice, but the important thing is that .NET means a thorough clean-up of the mess that is the current API. And, starting with longhorn, the .NET framework will be "the" native Windows API. In a sense it is funny that all the MS ads about .NET target web stuff and end-users, because in my opinion, the one who will really benefit are Windows developpers. Olivier Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Delphi8 [email]j.munk (AT) XremoveXthisXmaccor (DOT) com[/email] wrote: Quote: Hmm... That's kind of what I expected. One question remians: Will .NET applications developed with Delphi 8 run on a PDA? If so I might also consider start playing with it. It has not been certified for that, but Danny Thorpe has said that he has gotten some Delphi apps to work with the compact framework (CE). Quote: Jens. -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) If there is somebody up there could they throw me down a line. Just a little helping hand just a little understanding. Just some answers to the questions that surround me now. If there's somebody up there could they throw me down a line. 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