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Matthew Pascoe
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:48 pm    Post subject: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote



I have just finished developing an application using SQL Server 2000 and
Delphi 5 with ADO.

I need to deploy the application using the MSDE at the actual client sites.
I have some questions that people may be able to help me with:

1) What is the easiest ay to install the MSDE? It doesn't need to be
automated as there are only a small number of sites involved. Can I just
download the installation from the Microsoft site?

2) How hard is it to set up backups and run database scripts without
Enterprise Manager. Do other software companies who use the MSDE usually
install some sort of 3rd part client tools to make this easier?

Thanks for anty help.

Matthew



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Jos de Bruijn
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote




"Matthew Pascoe" <mpascoe (AT) stocklogix (DOT) com.au> wrote

Quote:
1) What is the easiest ay to install the MSDE? It doesn't need to be
automated as there are only a small number of sites involved. Can I just
download the installation from the Microsoft site?

Yes. But read the instructions on how to install the MSDE2000A (Release A)

This install default doesn't accept network connections, you need to use a
parameter at start of setup.exe and you need to give the sa password in a
parameter.


Quote:
2) How hard is it to set up backups and run database scripts without
Enterprise Manager. Do other software companies who use the MSDE usually
install some sort of 3rd part client tools to make this easier?

I haven't implemented this yet myself. But you can create a backup job

through TransactSQL see books online 'How to create a job (Transact-SQL)'

Jos.



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Jim Elden
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote



Quote:
2) How hard is it to set up backups and run database scripts without
Enterprise Manager. Do other software companies who use the MSDE usually
install some sort of 3rd part client tools to make this easier?

Scripts can be run from command line with OSQL.EXE

I also have an example program on
http://codecentral.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=17523

As for backups have a look at sp_add_maintenance_plan and related.


--
Jim




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Anton Santa
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote

Hi,
MSDE includes 16 different .msi files as you can run until 16 instances of
SQL-Server on the same PC. It is enough to deploy one on them. The syntax
for setup.exe is /settings setup.ini /i sqlrun14.msi /Wait /qb; in the
setup.ini you can specify some additional parameter like the name of the
instance and if sql-server should use Windows-only-authentication or mixed.
See below:
[Options]
INSTANCENAME=RAPIDO03
SECURITYMODE=SQL
TARGETDIR=c:Program FilesRapido
DATADIR=c:Program FilesRapido
not specifying the instancename sql-server is installed without instance but
you must be sure there is no other sql-server running on the same PC. Use a
setup program to write the correct parameters into the .ini before executing
the setup.
sql-server (msde2000) can't be installed on Win95; on Win98 it runs as
executeable, on WinNT, 2k, xp, 2003 as service.
From my knowing to deploy MSDE you must own a license of SQL-Server or a
programming language of MS or Office developer or something similar.
Hope this helps
Anton Santa


"Matthew Pascoe" <mpascoe (AT) stocklogix (DOT) com.au> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:416a8132$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
Quote:
I have just finished developing an application using SQL Server 2000 and
Delphi 5 with ADO.

I need to deploy the application using the MSDE at the actual client
sites. I have some questions that people may be able to help me with:

1) What is the easiest ay to install the MSDE? It doesn't need to be
automated as there are only a small number of sites involved. Can I just
download the installation from the Microsoft site?

2) How hard is it to set up backups and run database scripts without
Enterprise Manager. Do other software companies who use the MSDE usually
install some sort of 3rd part client tools to make this easier?

Thanks for anty help.

Matthew






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Jos de Bruijn
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote


"Anton Santa" <santa-at-sabesoft.it> wrote

Quote:
From my knowing to deploy MSDE you must own a license of SQL-Server or a
programming language of MS or Office developer or something similar.

Not anymore nowadays it is free,
look at this microsoft page:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/downloads/download.asp

Greetinx,

Jos



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Anton Santa
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote

interesting; thx
Toni

"Jos de Bruijn" <Jos (AT) NoSpam (DOT) nl> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:416d312a (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
Quote:

"Anton Santa" <santa-at-sabesoft.it> wrote in message
news:416b833e$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
From my knowing to deploy MSDE you must own a license of SQL-Server or a
programming language of MS or Office developer or something similar.

Not anymore nowadays it is free,
look at this microsoft page:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/downloads/download.asp

Greetinx,

Jos





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Matthew Pascoe
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote

Thanks Jos, that has probably saved me quite a bit of grief.

Matthew

"Jos de Bruijn" <Jos (AT) NoSpam (DOT) nl> wrote

Quote:

"Matthew Pascoe" <mpascoe (AT) stocklogix (DOT) com.au> wrote in message
news:416a8132$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
1) What is the easiest ay to install the MSDE? It doesn't need to be
automated as there are only a small number of sites involved. Can I just
download the installation from the Microsoft site?

Yes. But read the instructions on how to install the MSDE2000A (Release A)
This install default doesn't accept network connections, you need to use a
parameter at start of setup.exe and you need to give the sa password in a
parameter.


2) How hard is it to set up backups and run database scripts without
Enterprise Manager. Do other software companies who use the MSDE usually
install some sort of 3rd part client tools to make this easier?

I haven't implemented this yet myself. But you can create a backup job
through TransactSQL see books online 'How to create a job (Transact-SQL)'

Jos.





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Matthew Pascoe
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote

Thanks Jim, I'll take a look.

Matthew
"Jim Elden" <x (AT) yz (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
2) How hard is it to set up backups and run database scripts without
Enterprise Manager. Do other software companies who use the MSDE usually
install some sort of 3rd part client tools to make this easier?

Scripts can be run from command line with OSQL.EXE

I also have an example program on
http://codecentral.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=17523

As for backups have a look at sp_add_maintenance_plan and related.


--
Jim






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Matthew Pascoe
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote

Thanks Anton

Matthew

"Anton Santa" <santa-at-sabesoft.it> wrote

Quote:
Hi,
MSDE includes 16 different .msi files as you can run until 16 instances of
SQL-Server on the same PC. It is enough to deploy one on them. The syntax
for setup.exe is /settings setup.ini /i sqlrun14.msi /Wait /qb; in the
setup.ini you can specify some additional parameter like the name of the
instance and if sql-server should use Windows-only-authentication or
mixed. See below:
[Options]
INSTANCENAME=RAPIDO03
SECURITYMODE=SQL
TARGETDIR=c:Program FilesRapido
DATADIR=c:Program FilesRapido
not specifying the instancename sql-server is installed without instance
but you must be sure there is no other sql-server running on the same PC.
Use a setup program to write the correct parameters into the .ini before
executing the setup.
sql-server (msde2000) can't be installed on Win95; on Win98 it runs as
executeable, on WinNT, 2k, xp, 2003 as service.
From my knowing to deploy MSDE you must own a license of SQL-Server or a
programming language of MS or Office developer or something similar.
Hope this helps
Anton Santa


"Matthew Pascoe" <mpascoe (AT) stocklogix (DOT) com.au> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:416a8132$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
I have just finished developing an application using SQL Server 2000 and
Delphi 5 with ADO.

I need to deploy the application using the MSDE at the actual client
sites. I have some questions that people may be able to help me with:

1) What is the easiest ay to install the MSDE? It doesn't need to be
automated as there are only a small number of sites involved. Can I just
download the installation from the Microsoft site?

2) How hard is it to set up backups and run database scripts without
Enterprise Manager. Do other software companies who use the MSDE usually
install some sort of 3rd part client tools to make this easier?

Thanks for anty help.

Matthew








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Jim Elden
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Deploying a MSDE application Reply with quote

Here's another interesting link

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q241397&ID=KB;EN-US;Q241397

then look at sp_add_jobschedule in BOL to see how to do it every night.

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Jim


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