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Gary
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 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject: Deployment in BCB2006??? |
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Hi
I was reading the Data Shheet on the BCB page
http://www.borland.com/us/products/cbuilder/index.html#professional and saw
that the minimum deployment would be Win 2000 Server and Pro, Win XP, Win
Server 2003.
Is this for real and what would that mean for any user of Win 98 me??
Gary
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Zach Saw
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Deployment in BCB2006??? |
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IIRC from 24h of Dexter, yes, that's the minimum requirements for real.
Win98 isn't supported, but the compiled apps will still run on win98. I
think they also mentioned that Delphi 2005 has already raised the minimum
requirements anyway. Or at least someone in the public chat mentioned it.
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Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Deployment in BCB2006??? |
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"Gary" <garyc (AT) nospamgjcsoftware (DOT) com> wrote
Yes.
| Quote: | what would that mean for any user of Win 98 me??
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It means that the IDE will not run on those OSes at all. Believe me, I did
not like it either when I read about that. I also do development on a
Win98SE machine. I will not be able to upgrade to the new IDE on that
machine (I have other machines that run Win2000 and XP, so I can upgrade
those machines).
Gambit
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Mike Margerum
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Deployment in BCB2006??? |
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Are you guys in a 3rd world country? Why in the heck would anyone use
windows 98 on a development machine? If you need to test in a 98
environment, buy vmware or buy an old pentium ii off ebay for $75
Gary wrote:
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Lester Caine
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Deployment in BCB2006??? |
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Mike Margerum wrote:
| Quote: | Are you guys in a 3rd world country? Why in the heck would anyone use
windows 98 on a development machine? If you need to test in a 98
environment, buy vmware or buy an old pentium ii off ebay for $75
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There are a large number of W98SE systems still running fine, and
Builder 5 works fine on them. What was not clear was if the new version
would actually BUILD applications for W98SE, but I think it is clear
that as with many of the current developments, older verions will live
for a long time to come with little incentive to replace them. I still
have prefectly stable Win3.1 installaions with OWL/BC++ applications but
I can only adjust them with an old machine development system. The BC++
IDE just dies on W2k and it's not worth the effort finding out why.
There has been a similar stuation on other list I frequent, and the
answer is "If it's not brok, don't fix it". If you have a working system
STAY WITH IT :)
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Lester Caine
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L.S.Caine Electronic Services
Treasurer - Firebird Foundation Inc.
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Mike Margerum
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Deployment in BCB2006??? |
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| Quote: | There are a large number of W98SE systems still running fine, and
Builder 5 works fine on them. What was not clear was if the new version
would actually BUILD applications for W98SE, but I think it is clear
that as with many of the current developments, older verions will live
for a long time to come with little incentive to replace them. I still
have prefectly stable Win3.1 installaions with OWL/BC++ applications but
I can only adjust them with an old machine development system. The BC++
IDE just dies on W2k and it's not worth the effort finding out why.
I don't doubt it's important to support windows 98 for applications and |
there is now way in hell Borland wouldnt support it for *running* apps
built in delphi/C++.
What I don't get is why you would do your development on win98 when you
can buy a dell/xp unit capable of running delphi 2005/2006 for
$500-$600. It's just nuts. It will pay for itself in time saved
waiting for compiles in months.
The thought of having my developer box running on a FAT32 partition
sends shivers down my spine.
| Quote: | There has been a similar stuation on other list I frequent, and the
answer is "If it's not brok, don't fix it". If you have a working system
STAY WITH IT :)
different strokes.... |
time is money for me.
Besides who really runs a windows machine without
rebuilding/reinstalling for a year?
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Pete Fraser
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Deployment in BCB2006??? |
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I have BC++ 5.02 running on WinXP...no problems, no mods
Rgds Pete
"Lester Caine" <lester (AT) lsces (DOT) co.uk> wrote
| Quote: | Mike Margerum wrote:
The BC++ IDE just dies on W2k and it's not worth the effort finding out
why.
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Alisdair Meredith [TeamB]
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| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Deployment in BCB2006??? |
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Mike Margerum wrote:
| Quote: | different strokes....
time is money for me.
Besides who really runs a windows machine without
rebuilding/reinstalling for a year?
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Me.
Ever since MS started shipping 'system restore disks' rather than
install disks for Windows.
I tried the restore disk once. It did not restore my system to the
state I bought it in. Half the device drivers were missing. Tech
support were not interested, telling me to just download latest drivers
off the internet. Since one of the missing drivers was for the
internal modem, that was a lost cause...
The lesson I learned was not to resort to the restore disk unless the
alternative is to throw the machine away anyway. The risk is they
ammount to the same thing.
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AlisdairM(TeamB)
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