BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 9, 10, 11  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message David Intersimone David I Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:29 pm    Post subject: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... John Kaster has updated C++Builder Quality Central reports with DeXter C++ fixed status (so far). He will be updating the QC reports periodically as the builds continue. To see the fixed list, use the following QC query. http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?search=1&proj=15&rib=+10.0.2097.6343 Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... David Intersimone "David I wrote: Quote: John Kaster has updated C++Builder Quality Central reports with DeXter C++ fixed status (so far). He will be updating the QC reports periodically as the builds continue. To see the fixed list, use the following QC query. http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?search=1&proj=15&rib=+10.0.2097.6343 There have acutely been a few other pulls (on other builds #s) so if you search on just resolved in build 10 you will get more results. http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?search=1&proj=15&rib=10 -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) Your friends will know you better in the first minute you meet than your acquaintances will know you in a thousand years. (R Bach) Back to top Randall Parker Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... This list makes me hopeful. But I do not see evidence they've fixed what bothers me most often: 1) Internal compiler error on TComModule line. 2) Debugger stops working and tds file must get deleted. I've seen this one a lot: BCB6 Upd2 introduced error: 'Public symbol ... defined on both module ... and ...' I've also seen the one where the whole project gets rebuilt even though you do a Run and not much has changed. I wonder if the linker errors are for fixes that were done after the last linker release. Everyone be sure to note that there is a second page selectable at the bottom. Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote: Quote: There have acutely been a few other pulls (on other builds #s) so if you search on just resolved in build 10 you will get more results. http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?search=1&proj=15&rib=10 Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Randall Parker wrote: Quote: This list makes me hopeful. But I do not see evidence they've fixed what bothers me most often: a) it is not a complete list b) many internal only reports have been fixed, but not made public. c) not all QC entries are promoted because they are already in the internal DB. I'm not going to comment on personal pet bugs, but the fact that something is not in the list yet does not mean that a) it hasn't been address or b) they still plan on addressing it. -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) Your friends will know you better in the first minute you meet than your acquaintances will know you in a thousand years. (R Bach) Back to top Alex Bakaev [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Randall Parker wrote: Quote: This list makes me hopeful. But I do not see evidence they've fixed what bothers me most often: 1) Internal compiler error on TComModule line. Randall, is there a QC number for this? If not, a short test case? ..a Back to top Tamas Demjen Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Randall Parker wrote: Quote: This list makes me hopeful. But I do not see evidence they've fixed what bothers me most often: 1) Internal compiler error on TComModule line. 2) Debugger stops working and tds file must get deleted. I agree. Those are the two main problems I get often too. Sometimes it's enough to close the project, sometimes I have to delete the TDS file and rebuild to fix them. Quote: I've also seen the one where the whole project gets rebuilt even though you do a Run and not much has changed. It has three aspects: - Any slight modification you make to the project options (such as increase the version number) triggers a full rebuild. BCB5 and earlier didn't do that. - If you have a .pas in the project, the IDE always regenerates the .hpp file, which makes the project manager believe they changed and every unit that includes it will be recompiled (even if no modifications were made to the .pas file). - If you have a type library in the project, the IDE always updates the auto-generated .h files, which again triggers a recompile to every unit that includes them (even when no modifications were made to the type library). Tom Back to top Randall Parker Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Alex, I'm searching QC and do not see an entry for it. Mind you, I'm not sure if I'm setting up the searches correctly. With the web page do you have to select something from every list box? Isn't there a "don't care" method of doing this? Why make someone select a single BCB version if the original report could have been filed 2 versions ago? This error comes up occasionally. I can never predict when it will happen. I can not create a test case since I do not know how to make it happen. Sometimes it'll happen to me 5 times in a day and other times I'll go weeks without seeing it. I have to build all to get around it. Many other people have seen it too and apparently for years:. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=internal%20compiler%20error%20TComModule&sourceid=mozilla-search&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wg http://www.google.com/search?q=internal+compiler+error+TComModule&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official Alex Bakaev [TeamB] wrote: Quote: Randall Parker wrote: This list makes me hopeful. But I do not see evidence they've fixed what bothers me most often: 1) Internal compiler error on TComModule line. Randall, is there a QC number for this? If not, a short test case? .a Back to top Alex Bakaev [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Randall Parker wrote: Quote: Alex, I'm searching QC and do not see an entry for it. Mind you, I'm not sure if I'm setting up the searches correctly. With the web page do you have to select something from every list box? Isn't there a "don't care" method of doing this? Why make someone select a single BCB version if the original report could have been filed 2 versions ago? I don't really know how that search is supposed to work Quote: This error comes up occasionally. I can never predict when it will happen. I can not create a test case since I do not know how to make it happen. Sometimes it'll happen to me 5 times in a day and other times I'll go weeks without seeing it. I have to build all to get around it. Hmm, I understand, but that will make a fix so much less probable. Hopefully, this is going to be fixed incidentally with other ICE fixes. Cheers, ..a p.s. have you applied for the beta? Back to top vavan Guest Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:42:07 -0400, "Jeff Overcash (TeamB)" <jeffovercash (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: a) it is not a complete list b) many internal only reports have been fixed, but not made public. c) not all QC entries are promoted because they are already in the internal DB. I'm not going to comment on personal pet bugs, but the fact that something is not in the list yet does not mean that a) it hasn't been address or b) they still plan on addressing it. I'm not very satisfied with _how_ they "fixed" some of those bugs - see for example qc#6978 -- Vladimir Ulchenko aka vavan Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... vavan wrote: Quote: I'm not very satisfied with _how_ they "fixed" some of those bugs - see for example qc#6978 If you are not satisfied with how they "fixed" some bugs, at least present a QC entry that is marked fixed. This one is clearly marked as a "test case error". Read Remy's explanation on why it is a test case error, this is exactly what the R&D engineer agreed with in the internal report. Borland does not claim to have fixed 6978, only that it was closed due to a test case error. -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) Your friends will know you better in the first minute you meet than your acquaintances will know you in a thousand years. (R Bach) Back to top Alex Bakaev [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote: Quote: If you are not satisfied with how they "fixed" some bugs, at least present a QC entry that is marked fixed. This one is clearly marked as a "test case error". Read Remy's explanation on why it is a test case error, this is exactly what the R&D engineer agreed with in the internal report. Borland does not claim to have fixed 6978, only that it was closed due to a test case error. Hmm, that's not a test case error. Remy's explanation is incorrect. ..a Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... "Alex Bakaev [TeamB]" wrote: Quote: Hmm, that's not a test case error. Remy's explanation is incorrect. Well the internal comment on this by the R&D engineer agrees with Remy's assessment. That is why it was closed as a test case error by the engineer (not by Remy). Quote: .a -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) Your friends will know you better in the first minute you meet than your acquaintances will know you in a thousand years. (R Bach) Back to top Alex Bakaev [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote: Quote: Well the internal comment on this by the R&D engineer agrees with Remy's assessment. That is why it was closed as a test case error by the engineer (not by Remy). I don't think I have access to the internal comment, so I go only by what's in QC. ..a Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... "Alex Bakaev [TeamB]" wrote: Quote: Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote: Well the internal comment on this by the R&D engineer agrees with Remy's assessment. That is why it was closed as a test case error by the engineer (not by Remy). I don't think I have access to the internal comment, so I go only by what's in QC. My point is still the same. Borland never claimed to have fixed this. The original complaint was that he didn't agree with the fix, but Borland never claimed they did anything about this. You can claim that it is not a test case error and I won't argue with you, but if you want to hold this up as an example of a "fix" by Borland I will argue because this is not something Borland claimed to have fixed in any way. Quote: .a -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) Your friends will know you better in the first minute you meet than your acquaintances will know you in a thousand years. (R Bach) Back to top Alex Bakaev [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:48 am    Post subject: Re: DeXter C++ Quality Central bugs resolved so far... Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote: Quote: My point is still the same. Borland never claimed to have fixed this. The original complaint was that he didn't agree with the fix, but Borland never claimed they did anything about this. You can claim that it is not a test case error and I won't argue with you, but if you want to hold this up as an example of a "fix" by Borland I will argue because this is not something Borland claimed to have fixed in any way. Oh, I'm not arguing fixed vs. unfixed. 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