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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:16 am    Post subject: DeXter Reply with quote




-What QC's will be fixed in DeXter?
-Are there any language enhancements?



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Leonel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote



Max wrote:

Quote:
-What QC's will be fixed in DeXter?

Which ones would you like to be?

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Atle Smelvær
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote



How about most or all reported reproduceable IDE bugs, ranged on how often
they appear. And they should do all testing with FastMM plugged into the
IDE, because it will help produce errors when the IDE is using freed memory
mutch earlier than the standard MM did.

-Atle


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Leonel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

Atle Smelvær wrote:

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How about most or all reported reproduceable IDE bugs, ranged on how
often they appear.

OK, I should have known I'd get that, here being non-tech and all.

Is there a reproduceable IDE bug that's not yet open? Please post its
number here so I can attempt to reproduce it and open it.

I think there's a pretty good chance that reproduceable IDE open bugs
getting fixed.

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Atle Smelvær
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

If you have access to the database, you could maybe fix 14942. It has a
resolution as opened, but the status is still reported.. 14632 is easy to
reproduce. Just create a new Win32 VCL forms project, put some components on
form, and then File>Close All from menu. Voila, you have an exception.

-Atle


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Atle Smelvær
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

One thing I wonder a lot about is:

Will the remote debugger be back in DeXter?

-Atle


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Leonel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

Atle Smelvær wrote:

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Will the remote debugger be back in DeXter?

Rumor says it will:

http://delphi.wikicities.com/wiki/DeXter

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Leonel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

Atle Smelvær wrote:

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If you have access to the database, you could maybe fix 14942. It has
a resolution as opened, but the status is still reported..

I linked it to its internal report again.

Quote:
14632 is
easy to reproduce.

Sorry, it doesn't happen here. D2005 upd3 with fastmm. Floating,
undocked designer.

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Bruce McGee
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

Max wrote:

Quote:
-What QC's will be fixed in DeXter?
-Are there any language enhancements?

Here are a couple of sites that have collected some publicly released
information and rumours about DeXter. No specific QC numbers, but I'm
sure there's at least one in there about the memory manager:

http://delphi.wikicities.com/wiki/DeXter
http://www.drbob42.com/dexter/home.htm

And for good measure:

http://delphi.wikicities.com/wiki/Highlander

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JED
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

Atle Smelvær wrote:

Quote:
How about most or all reported reproduceable IDE bugs, ranged on how
often they appear. And they should do all testing with FastMM plugged
into the IDE, because it will help produce errors when the IDE is
using freed memory mutch earlier than the standard MM did.

All of these
http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?search=1&first=Jeremy&last=North
would be nice :-)

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JED
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

Bruce McGee wrote:

Quote:
http://delphi.wikicities.com/wiki/DeXter

From that site:

"... Think of this as being similar to Jed's DCM tool but with better
preservation of settings when switching between
personalities/configurations."

I've actually got a draft in my blog that mentions how much this will
suck but I will hold off until release about this. I guess it will
depend on how it is implemented but from that Audio Cast, I wont like
it and it wont replace the purpose of DCM.

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JED
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

Bruce McGee wrote:

Quote:
http://delphi.wikicities.com/wiki/Highlander

"Features that may be in Highlander:

..NET 2.0 support (generics etc.). "

Without support for generics, there wouldn't be much point in releasing
Highlander. I can imagine the comments now ...

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Stephane Wierzbicki
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

Leonel a écrit :
Quote:
Max wrote:


-What QC's will be fixed in DeXter?


Which ones would you like to be?

QC 13652 !!!


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Captain Jake
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote

"Atle Smelvær" <atle (AT) datagrafikk (DOT) no> wrote

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How about most or all reported reproduceable IDE bugs, ranged on how often
they appear.

I suspect they already do that. It is mostly the irreproducible bugs that
are giving people the most problems righbt now.

And they should do all testing with FastMM plugged into the
Quote:
IDE, because it will help produce errors when the IDE is using freed
memory mutch earlier than the standard MM did.

No, they should test using the memory manager that will be used when it is
released. Whether that is FastMM, or an improved BOrlandMM or whatever, I
don't know. But nobody should ever release a product using a different
memory manager than they tested and QA'ed with. (There are tools that will
tell you where the memory leaks are, as well as dangling pointers,
doubly-freed objects, etc., without altering your memory environment that
drastically.)



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Atle Smelvær
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: DeXter Reply with quote


Quote:
If you have access to the database, you could maybe fix 14942. It has
a resolution as opened, but the status is still reported..

I linked it to its internal report again.

Thanks.

Quote:
14632 is
easy to reproduce.

Sorry, it doesn't happen here. D2005 upd3 with fastmm. Floating,
undocked designer.

Might have been fixed in the latest unofficial patch then. I have all the
latest patches and FastMM, and cannot reproduce it right now. I will check
it further later.

-Atle



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