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Markus Spoettl (toolsfact
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote



I'm having some real difficulties with Delphi 2007 and a DLL expert that
worked perfectly in BDS2005. First of all, I can't debug it as the IDE
crashes as soon as it hits a breakpoint.

Also, the IDE (with the expert loaded) crashes on shutdown (looks like
an endless recursion in ntdll.dll).

Anyone else having problems, is there something special with D2007 wrt
toolsapi?

Thanks for any pointers!

Regards
Markus
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JED
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote



Markus Spoettl (toolsfactory) wrote:

Quote:
I'm having some real difficulties with Delphi 2007 and a DLL expert
that worked perfectly in BDS2005. First of all, I can't debug it as
the IDE crashes as soon as it hits a breakpoint.

Also, the IDE (with the expert loaded) crashes on shutdown (looks
like an endless recursion in ntdll.dll).

Anyone else having problems, is there something special with D2007
wrt toolsapi?

I have also seen this with DLL experts in D2007. CPU usage goes to
100%. When that doesn't happen, I've had instances where I couldn't use
any debug keys once the debugger stopped at the first breakpoint. Step
Over, Step In actions where all disabled.

Then other times it has worked fine.

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Erik Berry
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote



JED wrote:
Quote:
I have also seen this with DLL experts in D2007. CPU usage goes to
100%. When that doesn't happen, I've had instances where I couldn't use
any debug keys once the debugger stopped at the first breakpoint. Step
Over, Step In actions where all disabled.

I saw something similar today with Delphi 6 under Vista (debugging keys
disabled, even though I was at a breakpoint). XP seemed to work fine
with the same project. If you both use Vista, that might be a common
thread.

Erik
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JED
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Erik Berry wrote:

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XP seemed to work fine with the same project. If you both use Vista,
that might be a common thread.

I was using XP.

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Markus Spoettl (toolsfact
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Erik Berry wrote:
Quote:
I saw something similar today with Delphi 6 under Vista (debugging keys
disabled, even though I was at a breakpoint). XP seemed to work fine
with the same project. If you both use Vista, that might be a common
thread.

I'm using Vista. Also, I can provide the DLL in question if that helps.
You should be able to run the IDE debugged and see the crash.

Regards
Markus
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Erik Berry
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Markus Spoettl (toolsfactory) wrote:
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I'm using Vista. Also, I can provide the DLL in question if that helps.
You should be able to run the IDE debugged and see the crash.

If it is reproducible with a simple source code test case (< 100 lines
of code), put it in QC and I'll take a look at promoting the bug, if I
can duplicate it.

Erik
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Markus Spoettl (toolsfact
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Erik Berry wrote:
Quote:
Markus Spoettl (toolsfactory) wrote:
I'm using Vista. Also, I can provide the DLL in question if that
helps. You should be able to run the IDE debugged and see the crash.

If it is reproducible with a simple source code test case (< 100 lines
of code), put it in QC and I'll take a look at promoting the bug, if I
can duplicate it.

I've trimmed it down to the very basic stuff. When this very basic thing
is loaded the IDE crashes on shutdown (the Windows Vista "Blabla has
stopped working" dialog shows up).

I can't currently log a QC as the QC Client can't connect to the server.
I've posted the project to .attachments.

I'd be most interested in getting this sorted out as I really need to
get this expert working again. Thanks for any help!

Regards
Markus
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Markus Spoettl (toolsfact
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Erik Berry wrote:
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If it is reproducible with a simple source code test case (< 100 lines
of code), put it in QC

Report No: 44578 Status: Reported
IDE Crashes on shutdown with DLL expert loaded
http://qc.codegear.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=44578
QCWIN:Defect_No=44578

Markus
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Uwe Schuster
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Markus Spoettl (toolsfactory) wrote:

Quote:
Erik Berry wrote:
I saw something similar today with Delphi 6 under Vista (debugging
keys disabled, even though I was at a breakpoint). XP seemed to
work fine with the same project. If you both use Vista, that
might be a common thread.

I'm using Vista.

I can debug the JVCS expert under Vista x64.
Maybe the difference is that I am using a Professional edition.
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Uwe Schuster
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Markus Spoettl (toolsfactory) wrote:

Quote:
I've trimmed it down to the very basic stuff. When this very basic
thing is loaded the IDE crashes on shutdown (the Windows Vista
"Blabla has stopped working" dialog shows up).

Unfortunately I've only checked if debugging works and have overlooked
the shutdown problem. Anyway IIRC there was an access violation in the
IDE after I closed the second IDE.

This issue seams to be more a Vista issue than a D2007 issue because
the issue here
http://homepages.codegear.com/jedi/issuetracker/view.php?id=4089
seams to be very similar.
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Markus Spoettl (toolsfact
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Uwe Schuster wrote:
Quote:
Unfortunately I've only checked if debugging works and have overlooked
the shutdown problem. Anyway IIRC there was an access violation in the
IDE after I closed the second IDE.

This issue seams to be more a Vista issue than a D2007 issue because
the issue here
http://homepages.codegear.com/jedi/issuetracker/view.php?id=4089
seams to be very similar.

Even if it only appears on Vista it doesn't mean it's a OS issue. Delphi
2007 is supposed to run on it just fine. This minimal example crashes
the IDE where it shouldn't.

Anyway, thanks for the information.

Regards
Markus
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Uwe Schuster
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Markus Spoettl (toolsfactory) wrote:

Quote:
Uwe Schuster wrote:
Unfortunately I've only checked if debugging works and have
overlooked the shutdown problem. Anyway IIRC there was an access
violation in the IDE after I closed the second IDE.

This issue seams to be more a Vista issue than a D2007 issue because
the issue here
http://homepages.codegear.com/jedi/issuetracker/view.php?id=4089
seams to be very similar.

Even if it only appears on Vista it doesn't mean it's a OS issue.
Delphi 2007 is supposed to run on it just fine.

I meant the same.
Maybe I should have written something like "seams to be more a vista
specific Galileo issue".
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Markus Spoettl (toolsfact
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Erik Berry wrote:
Quote:
If it is reproducible with a simple source code test case (< 100 lines
of code), put it in QC and I'll take a look at promoting the bug, if I
can duplicate it.

Did you manage to recreate the issue? The report status is still "reported".

Markus
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Erik Berry
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Markus Spoettl (toolsfactory) wrote:
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Report No: 44578 Status: Reported
IDE Crashes on shutdown with DLL expert loaded

I added a few details to the report and promoted it:

Report No: 44578 (RAID: 250119) Status: Open
IDE Crashes on shutdown with DLL expert loaded
http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=44578

Erik
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Markus Spoettl (toolsfact
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Re: DLL experts in Delphi 2007 Reply with quote

Erik Berry wrote:
Quote:
Report No: 44578 (RAID: 250119) Status: Open
IDE Crashes on shutdown with DLL expert loaded
http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=44578

Excellent, thanks
Markus
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