BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  EULA....          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message PLM Guest Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 9:10 pm    Post subject: EULA.... Not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm trying to work out what the right EULA is for BCB C++ 6 Pro. On the Borland web site (something like info.borland.com/...) it has a EULA which state that the named user can install the product on a reasonable number of machines, which is the way I remember the EULA for previous Bormand products or in fact VC++ is the same. But the EULA on the installation CD does not mention this at all. Can someone tell me if there is more than one version of a EULA for this product, or is this difference a cause of different revisions of the EULA for this product? Thanks Paul. Back to top PLM Guest Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: End User License Agreement.... I guess from the lack of response that no one knows. And Borland hasn't answered my question yet either? "PLM" <plmacca (AT) clara (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: Not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm trying to work out what the right EULA is for BCB C++ 6 Pro. On the Borland web site (something like info.borland.com/...) it has a EULA which state that the named user can install the product on a reasonable number of machines, which is the way I remember the EULA for previous Bormand products or in fact VC++ is the same. But the EULA on the installation CD does not mention this at all. Can someone tell me if there is more than one version of a EULA for this product, or is this difference a cause of different revisions of the EULA for this product? Thanks Paul. Back to top Hendrik Schober Guest Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: End User License Agreement.... PLM <plmacca (AT) clara (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Quote: I guess from the lack of response that no one knows. And Borland hasn't answered my question yet either? I remember this beeing discussed here, but I don't know what the outcome was. Have you tried to google these groups? Quote: [...] Schobi -- [email]SpamTrap (AT) gmx (DOT) de[/email] is never read I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org "Sometimes compilers are so much more reasonable than people." Scott Meyers Back to top Gillmer J. Derge (TeamB) Guest Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: End User License Agreement.... PLM wrote: Quote: I guess from the lack of response that no one knows. And Borland hasn't answered my question yet either? a) It's probably partly that noone knows, partly that I think people are generally shy about commenting on the license agreement, since it has obvious legal implications. b) Borland doesn't typically answer questions in these groups. The only groups that have an official Borland presence are the .install ones. The rest are "peer" supported. That said ... The license agreement was revised around the time of that posting you found on the Borland web site. In fact, I think if you read the article carefully it says something like, "The new licenses are here." Actually, I found it. You don't need to read very carefully at all. Here's the quote: "As Dale Fuller promised on January 15th in his article we now have the new End User Licence Agreements (EULAs) for our tools ready for you. These new EULAs supersede the previous EULAs." http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,28401,00.html -- Gillmer J. Derge (TeamB) Back to top PLM Guest Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: End User License Agreement.... Thanks. I did try to search but I must have typed in the wrong search word. Also, last night, I actually got a phone call from the Borland help desk in the UK, and they also confirmed the EULA as it should be, although didn't seem to know why my CD said something different. But at least I know now, and know a bit of the history! Thanks again. "Gillmer J. Derge (TeamB)" <spam (AT) gillmerderge (DOT) com> wrote Quote: PLM wrote: I guess from the lack of response that no one knows. And Borland hasn't answered my question yet either? a) It's probably partly that noone knows, partly that I think people are generally shy about commenting on the license agreement, since it has obvious legal implications. b) Borland doesn't typically answer questions in these groups. The only groups that have an official Borland presence are the .install ones. The rest are "peer" supported. That said ... The license agreement was revised around the time of that posting you found on the Borland web site. In fact, I think if you read the article carefully it says something like, "The new licenses are here." Actually, I found it. You don't need to read very carefully at all. Here's the quote: "As Dale Fuller promised on January 15th in his article we now have the new End User Licence Agreements (EULAs) for our tools ready for you. These new EULAs supersede the previous EULAs." http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,28401,00.html -- Gillmer J. Derge (TeamB) Back to top Gillmer J. Derge (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: End User License Agreement.... PLM wrote: Quote: I did try to search but I must have typed in the wrong search word. The BDN's search capabilities are terrible. I knew exactly what to search for and still wasn't able to find it very easily. Several tries that should have worked either returned nothing or totally irrelevant results. -- Gillmer J. Derge (TeamB) Back to top PLM Guest Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: End User License Agreement.... Now that I can install on more than one machine, do you know what impact there is in not registering the product on each machine? Is there anything disabled until I do? Or is there an easy way of "fooling" it into thinking I have, like a registry setting? "Gillmer J. Derge (TeamB)" <spam (AT) gillmerderge (DOT) com> wrote Quote: PLM wrote: I did try to search but I must have typed in the wrong search word. The BDN's search capabilities are terrible. I knew exactly what to search for and still wasn't able to find it very easily. Several tries that should have worked either returned nothing or totally irrelevant results. -- Gillmer J. Derge (TeamB) Back to top Yu-Chen Hsueh Guest Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 9:55 pm    Post subject: Re: End User License Agreement.... PLM, Not registering won't disable anything. The only "side effect" is your splash screen will just say "Unregistered". Registering just places a binary key into your Registry. Unfortunately, there's no easy way to replicate that. -- YH -- -- Please confine your posts to the newsgroups and DO NOT reply to this e-mail account unless asked. Any unsolicted e-mail will be ignored. 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