BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  For Jim :)          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi OO design View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Iman L Crawford Guest Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: For Jim :) I thought you might appreciate this WTF. http://thedailywtf.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=30308 -- Iman Back to top Eric Hill Guest Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: For Jim :) Quote: I thought you might appreciate this WTF. http://thedailywtf.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=30308 Yikes. Talk about an over-achieving class. Delegate, delegate, delegate. Eric Back to top Jim Cooper Guest Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: For Jim :) Quote: I thought you might appreciate this WTF. Thanks, yes I do :-) Cheers, Jim Cooper __________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jcooper (AT) tabdee (DOT) ltd.uk[/email] Tabdee Ltd http://www.tabdee.ltd.uk TurboSync - Connecting Delphi to your Palm __________________________________________ Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: For Jim :) Eric Hill wrote: Quote: I thought you might appreciate this WTF. http://thedailywtf.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=30308 Yikes. Talk about an over-achieving class. Delegate, delegate, delegate. It might actually delegate most of these to contained classes. <g> One similar example is the ToolsAPI's BorlandIDEServices. -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] http://rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time." -- Robin Williams, commenting on the Clinton/Lewinsky affair Back to top Jim Cooper Guest Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: For Jim :) Quote: It might actually delegate most of these to contained classes. And yet still be a bad, bad idea :-) Quote: One similar example is the ToolsAPI's BorlandIDEServices. QED :-) Cheers, Jim Cooper __________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jcooper (AT) tabdee (DOT) ltd.uk[/email] Tabdee Ltd http://www.tabdee.ltd.uk TurboSync - Connecting Delphi to your Palm __________________________________________ Back to top Bob Dawson Guest Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: For Jim :) "Iman L Crawford" wrote Quote: http://thedailywtf.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=30308 <CONTRARIAN MODE=ON> I'm going to defend the class... What you're all ignoring is that it's likely a passive listener--hooking into all the event systems in the application to roll them into a single, traceable stream. From the name I'd guess as output to a debug window, but might also be switchable to write to a trace file, etc. It's not an actor playing too many roles, but a courtroom stenographer--VERY handy for debugging actual program flow. The number of channels it has to listen to is an indication of just how granular the system design actually is. In fact, if there's a criticism anywhere, it's not in this class (which is a consolidator in nature and intent), but rather in that so many different messaging interfaces have been written. Could not all these listening interfaces have been reduced to a few generic signatures, leaving the various channels (DeleteScheduleListener, RefreshScheduleListListener, etc.) as simply deployment instances of a common interface, rather than descrete interface types? Answer to that is in the information richness/details of the interfaces. bobD Back to top Jim Cooper Guest Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: For Jim :) Quote: What you're all ignoring is that it's likely a passive listener I don't think it matters. As you say, the problem is bigger than this one class, but this class is definitely an indicator that things have gotten quite out of hand. Like I have often said, too many interfaces implemented in one class is a bad smell. I was thinking of 4 or 5 as way too many though, not 18 or whatever this one has :-) Cheers, Jim Cooper __________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jcooper (AT) tabdee (DOT) ltd.uk[/email] Tabdee Ltd http://www.tabdee.ltd.uk TurboSync - Connecting Delphi to your Palm __________________________________________ Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi OO design All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.