BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Highlander release date Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Frede Guest Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Highlander release date From the Borland Delphi Roadmap http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,33383,00.html#4DelphiHighlander "The current plan is to release Highlander in calendar year 2006, with tech preview builds available for download by registered Delphi customers shortly after .NET 2.0 is released." It's now been over 4 months since .NET 2 was shipped. Where are the tech preview builds? Any plans on a release dates etc.? /Frede Back to top Uffe Kousgaard Guest Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date "Frede" <fredeATbluebottleDOTcom> wrote in message news:441440e1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: It's now been over 4 months since .NET 2 was shipped. Where are the tech preview builds? Any plans on a release dates etc.? Updated release plan: http://japan.zdnet.com/media/2006/news/03/060303_bdc_03.jpg It was all discussed in a thread called "Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd." one week ago. Regards Uffe Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Frede wrote: Quote: From the Borland Delphi Roadmap http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,33383,00.html#4DelphiHighlander I believe that is being updated soon. Planned release date for Highlander is something like Q1 2007. -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Have questions?: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Want answers?: http://support.borland.com Back to top Rod Guest Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Frede wrote: Quote: From the Borland Delphi Roadmap http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,33383,00.html#4DelphiHighlander "The current plan is to release Highlander in calendar year 2006, with tech preview builds available for download by registered Delphi customers shortly after .NET 2.0 is released." It's now been over 4 months since .NET 2 was shipped. Where are the tech preview builds? Any plans on a release dates etc.? /Frede Currently Delphi is fighting against the higher Borland management. I estimate a 2 year delay.... Back to top Nils Boedeker Guest Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Hi Quote: Currently Delphi is fighting against the higher Borland management. I estimate a 2 year delay.... This seemd to me the biggest problem that delphi have fighting again (since years)... Nils Back to top TObject Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date "Uffe Kousgaard" <oh (AT) no (DOT) no> wrote in message news:441446a6$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Updated release plan: http://japan.zdnet.com/media/2006/news/03/060303_bdc_03.jpg Uffe, I took the liberty to correct perspective, and add year lines on that image: http://www.orderfactory.com/public_docs/060303_bdc_03_c.jpg Quote: It was all discussed in a thread called "Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd." one week ago. Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Quote: Uffe, I took the liberty to correct perspective, and add year lines on that image: http://www.orderfactory.com/public_docs/060303_bdc_03_c.jpg It was all discussed in a thread called "Borland DevCon 2006 Tokyo / Mar 3rd." one week ago. I don't se why they don't get a release out by June/July this year with .net 2 support + D2006 bugfixes, and deliver the native Win64 support, Vista support etc another 6 months after that. Otherwise the latter can hold back the former, which is already running late . . . After all, Borland were meant to have the .net 2 support already done and were just waiting for the MS official release . . . My 2c. Lauchlan M Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Quote: I believe that is being updated soon. Planned release date for Highlander is something like Q1 2007. Why 6 months delay? It's not like all development stops because IDE tools are looking for a buyer. Development staff would still get on with their day jobs, and dream about the future on the side . . . Lauchlan M Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Lauchlan M wrote: Quote: Why 6 months delay? The original plan was "during 2006". If it was Q4 2006 (which ISTR it being the plan), Q1 2007 is not 6 months. Quote: It's not like all development stops because IDE tools are looking for a buyer. Looking for a buyer is not the only reason why plans change. -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Have questions?: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Want answers?: http://support.borland.com Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Lauchlan M wrote: Quote: My recollection is that when Danny Thorpe put up the anticipated timelines to last years ADUG symposium in Melbourne the anticiapted release date for Highlander was mid 2006. It was meant to just contain essentially .net 2 support and some extras depending on .net 2 (IDE improvements etc). Thanks for the info. The delay might be explained by what seems to be more added to it, eg VCL for CF, ECO for VCL.NET etc. Of course that doesn't help those waiting for .NET 2.0 support :-/ -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Have questions?: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Want answers?: http://support.borland.com Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Quote: The original plan was "during 2006". If it was Q4 2006 (which ISTR it being the plan), Q1 2007 is not 6 months. My recollection is that when Danny Thorpe put up the anticipated timelines to last years ADUG symposium in Melbourne the anticiapted release date for Highlander was mid 2006. It was meant to just contain essentially .net 2 support and some extras depending on .net 2 (IDE improvements etc). Lauchlan M Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Craig wrote: Quote: cant understand why I chose delphi instead of VS considering it doesn't even support .NET 2.0 yet I'm kind of in the same boat; I would like to choose BDS, but can't. That is unless someone can tell me how to take advantage of ASP.NET 2.0 with BDS 2006, without much effort. -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Have questions?: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Want answers?: http://support.borland.com Back to top Craig Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Quote: Thanks for the info. The delay might be explained by what seems to be more added to it, eg VCL for CF, ECO for VCL.NET etc. Of course that doesn't help those waiting for .NET 2.0 support :-/ It doesn't help converting newcomers over to Delphi either. I am the lead in a large ASP.NET application we are working on written in Delphi. One of the new guys who has no real history or bias in IDE's (he's a recent graduate) cant understand why I chose delphi instead of VS considering it doesn't even support .NET 2.0 yet. Craig. Back to top Paul Nichols (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date Captain Jake wrote: Quote: "Karl" <kthompson@pine-grove.com.nospam> wrote in message news:4415989f$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I also feel screwed. I bought D2006 (which I've not even opened yet) This reminds me of a commercial that airs frequently here in the States, where an executive explains that the money he is saving on his cellular plan is his way of "sticking it to the man", to which an underling replies, "But sir, you ARE the man. So aren't you really just sticking it to yourself?" ROFLMAO!! Back to top Daniel Rail Guest Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Highlander release date "Lauchlan M" <LMackinnonAT_NoSpam_ozemailDOTcomDOTau> wrote in message news:4414d141 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I don't se why they don't get a release out by June/July this year with .net 2 support + D2006 bugfixes, and deliver the native Win64 support, Vista support etc another 6 months after that. Otherwise the latter can hold back the former, which is already running late . . . I agree that they should release an update with .Net 2.0 support, ASAP. Quote: After all, Borland were meant to have the .net 2 support already done and were just waiting for the MS official release . . . And, from Danny Thorpe's blog(Dated Sept. 27, 2005): [Start Quote...] The current plan is to release Highlander in calendar year 2006. We're considering releasing tech preview builds for download by registered Delphi customers shortly after .NET 2.0 is released, but that will depend largely upon how quickly we can get the raft of new language syntax nailed down, and upon when Microsoft gets around to actually shipping .NET 2.0. As always, these plans are subject to change. [...End Quote] And, here's another comment from Danny Thorpe from that same blog(dated: Sept 28, 2005): [Start Quote...] "I kind of read into this that Borland is doing lots of waiting on Microsoft to finish up .NET 2.0, but this could hardly be true. .NET 2.0 has been stable for some time now." Borland cannot ship product on .NET 2.0 beta. Microsoft has made that very clear. We pushed hard to get license to distribute Borland product with .NET 2.0 beta bits on the CD, but Microsoft flatly refused. Apparently the only development tools that are allowed to include .NET beta bits are Microsoft tools. My snide remark about if and when .NET 2.0 actually ships is in regard to the many revisions to the .NET 2.0 release date. Originally (2002), .NET 2.0 was scheduled to ship in 2004. In the spring of 2004, Microsoft announced the ship date had been pushed back to June 2005. In February 2005, Microsoft announced the ship date for .NET 2.0 had been pushed out to end-of-year 2005. As we approach end-of-year 2005, it seems very likely they will finally hit that target, but it's always the case that you should never bank on Microsoft hitting any date. We originally intended to release tools for .NET 2.0 in 2005. However, .NET 2.0 slipped out of our release window, and Microsoft refused to let us release on .NET beta bits, so we adjusted our priorities to create DeXter on ..NET 1.1. [...End Quote] So, for those that have suggested that Borland could've played with .Net 2.0 beta and be ready for .Net 2.0 release. It seemed almost impossible to do that without having bits of .Net 2.0 beta in preleases of BDS 2006. So, basically it could've only been tested internally without any external testers, and I'm sure that tool developers wouldn't have been happy to see ..Net 2.0 support, but without having access to it prior to the release. Also, not knowing when .Net 2.0 would've been released, it would've meant that the release of BDS 2006 was uncertain(who knows it could've meant 3-6 months after .Net 2.0 release). And, reading Danny's comments, it is apparent that Borland tried hard to be able to ship with .Net 2.0. But, now it seems that it will be the new DevCo that will be shipping the next Developer Studio with .Net 2.0 support. And, my guess, the faster a deal is struck and the faster that the new DevCo wants to release under their name, hopefully they will want to release support for .Net 2.0 at the same time. 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