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Stephan
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:20 pm    Post subject: History Lesson? Reply with quote



After reading the thread concerning the death of
CodeWright (great product) I am struck with the
similarities between what's going on in Borland,
and something that transpired in the USA in the early
20th century.

It seems that Firestone, GM, and Standard Oil made
an agreement and funded a "war chest" to combat
their biggest competitor, which was public transportation
in the form of trolley cars and short line railroads.
With the "war chest" they formed a company that went
city to city, buying out the trolley car and short lines,
running them to ruin, then recouping some of their investments
by selling off the assets of the company: land, rights of way, etc.
Then, they would start a company running GM busses,
with Firestone tires, burning Standard Oil gasoline.


It makes one wonder.
Well, me anyway....

Stephan


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Ed Mulroy [TeamB]
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: History Lesson? Reply with quote



In this conspiracy what companies do you think correspond to the roles
of Firestone, GM and Standard Oil?

Conspiracy theories are often fun subjects but a conspiracy. A
conspiracy to reduce the number of code editors doesn't really have
the pizazz of something like the Area 51 or Illuminati controlling our
lives conspiracies. Without something to grab people's interest the
theory will probably not attact people's interest. Maybe you could
add something to spice it up a little, maybe something about Elvis or
space aliens.

BTW: The conspiracy to get rid of trolley cars is a documented fact.
The trivial fines the companies were made to pay are sad confirmation
of the political power big companies enjoyed in the years following
the second world war.

.. Ed

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Stephan wrote in message
news:407aa591$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...

After reading the thread concerning the death of
CodeWright (great product) I am struck with the
similarities between what's going on in Borland,
and something that transpired in the USA in the early
20th century.

It seems that Firestone, GM, and Standard Oil made
an agreement and funded a "war chest" to combat
their biggest competitor, which was public transportation
in the form of trolley cars and short line railroads.
With the "war chest" they formed a company that went
city to city, buying out the trolley car and short lines,
running them to ruin, then recouping some of their investments
by selling off the assets of the company: land, rights of way, etc.
Then, they would start a company running GM busses,
with Firestone tires, burning Standard Oil gasoline.


It makes one wonder.
Well, me anyway....



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Stephan
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: History Lesson? Reply with quote



"Ed Mulroy [TeamB]" <dont_email_me (AT) bitbuc (DOT) ket> wrote

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In this conspiracy what companies do you think correspond to the roles
of Firestone, GM and Standard Oil?

I don't know. It's only a theory.
one of many possible explanations, or part of the total.

I would suggest, ala Casablanca, "the usual suspects".


Quote:
Conspiracy theories are often fun subjects. A
conspiracy to reduce the number of code editors doesn't really have
the pizazz of something like the Area 51 or Illuminati controlling our
lives conspiracies. Without something to grab people's interest the
theory will probably not attract people's interest. Maybe you could
add something to spice it up a little, maybe something about Elvis or
space aliens.

you mean Elvis WASN'T a space alien???
and I always thought the way he danced had something to
do with multisocketed alien skelature....


Quote:
BTW: The conspiracy to get rid of trolley cars is a documented fact.
The trivial fines the companies were made to pay are sad confirmation
of the political power big companies enjoyed in the years following
the second world war.

yes.
how better to gain market share than to cause the market to lose faith
in your competitor.


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. Ed

Stephan wrote in message
news:407aa591$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...

After reading the thread concerning the death of
CodeWright (great product) I am struck with the
similarities between what's going on in Borland,
and something that transpired in the USA in the early
20th century.

It seems that Firestone, GM, and Standard Oil made
an agreement and funded a "war chest" to combat
their biggest competitor, which was public transportation
in the form of trolley cars and short line railroads.
With the "war chest" they formed a company that went
city to city, buying out the trolley car and short lines,
running them to ruin, then recouping some of their investments
by selling off the assets of the company: land, rights of way, etc.
Then, they would start a company running GM busses,
with Firestone tires, burning Standard Oil gasoline.


It makes one wonder.
Well, me anyway....



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Jack
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: History Lesson? Reply with quote

"Ed Mulroy [TeamB]" <dont_email_me (AT) bitbuc (DOT) ket> wrote


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BTW: The conspiracy to get rid of trolley cars is a documented fact.

Could you, please, name one trolley cars comapny that General
Motors bought and sold in the past ? I'm really curious. It must
be known since those are "documented facts". What are
the "documents" and where I can find them ?

Are those "documents" of the same category as the ones that claim
that automakers funded buyout of all the patents related to perpetuum
mobile and ever lasting batteries to keep them secretely from the
society ?

Europe discovered very simple method to keep trolley cars in
business. They taxed gasoline to the point that it cost four
times the price in USA. If you want to blame anybody, blame
US population (yourself) and politicians that they resist gasoline
taxes and want to live in a normal supply and demand economics
instead of one designed by big brother based on whatever leftist
belif is in fasion at the time.

JM

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