BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  how much for a program? Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message M0L0Ch Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 1:35 pm    Post subject: how much for a program? hello all..I hopw this is in the right newsgroup.. someone asked me to write a program like http://www.weblogexpert.com http://www.loganalyzer.net practically a log analyzer for webserver..the guys wants to know how much a such program will cost to him. I dont know an exact value before beginning the work...how do you orient in situations like this? approximately how much would you ask for a such program? and if he wants sources too?? thanks in advance! Back to top G.B.R. Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? "M0L0Ch" <noemail (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote Quote: approximately how much would you ask for a such program? and if he wants sources too?? decide how many lines your program will be, estimate how many hours you need to spend in writing it, multiply by $100, or whatever is your competitive rate and you arrived at cost. Back to top M0L0Ch Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? "G.B.R." <all (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote Quote: "M0L0Ch" <noemail (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fa659a2 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... approximately how much would you ask for a such program? and if he wants sources too?? decide how many lines your program will be, estimate how many hours you need to spend in writing it, this is the problem..I dont know how many hours/lines it may take... I'd say one month or two, more or less..too much? multiply by $100, or whatever is your competitive Quote: rate and you arrived at cost. Back to top Yahia El-Qasem Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? One would need pretty detailed description of the requirements / features... and whether the one who wants you make one needs it for internal use or for resseling or for bundling or or or.... whether you will be creating new versions with additional features ... No way to help without enough information... Yahia Back to top M0L0Ch Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? here are a link to the features required http://www.weblogexpert.com/features.htm they will sell the prog to their customers (they're a hosting company) and probably no new versions since they've asked for the sources too.. really thanks for your help!! "Yahia El-Qasem" <Yahia.El-Qasem (AT) mgh (DOT) metro-ag.de> wrote Quote: One would need pretty detailed description of the requirements / features... and whether the one who wants you make one needs it for internal use or for resseling or for bundling or or or.... whether you will be creating new versions with additional features ... No way to help without enough information... Yahia Back to top Yahia El-Qasem Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? depending on the experience you have... on the tools available / are allowed to be used... I think they all would have at least to be royalty free distributable and have to come with full source.... and even better if the components you use are freeware... you will need : a) local DB engine : like dbisam / nexusdb / accuracer ( all commercial )... or firebird ( freeware ) b) internet components : like ipworks ( commercial )... or Indy / ICS ( both freeware ) c) some charting components d) some detailed information about the log file formats... if you have some robust experience with text file parsing etc. you will perhaps need something between 2 and 3 months development time... an alternative would be to search for a freeware log analyzer tool with full source and customize that... Just my 2 cents... Yahia Back to top Rodolfo Frino Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? Estimate the time it will take to implement each feature and the time of integrating all the features into one application, testing, debugging, etc. Then add all those times to get the total amout time T (hours). Then multiply T by your hourly rate (Dollars/hour) Cost = T * Dollars "Vision is the ability to predict and take advantage of it" Rodolfo, 2003 "M0L0Ch" <noemail (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote Quote: here are a link to the features required http://www.weblogexpert.com/features.htm they will sell the prog to their customers (they're a hosting company) and probably no new versions since they've asked for the sources too.. really thanks for your help!! "Yahia El-Qasem" <Yahia.El-Qasem (AT) mgh (DOT) metro-ag.de> wrote in message news:3fa6c2cf (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... One would need pretty detailed description of the requirements / features... and whether the one who wants you make one needs it for internal use or for resseling or for bundling or or or.... whether you will be creating new versions with additional features ... No way to help without enough information... Yahia Back to top M0L0Ch Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? "Yahia El-Qasem" <Yahia.El-Qasem (AT) mgh (DOT) metro-ag.de> wrote Quote: depending on the experience you have... on the tools available / are allowed to be used... I think they all would have at least to be royalty free distributable and have to come with full source.... and even better if the components you use are freeware... thank you very much..at least I've an idea. Quote: you will need : a) local DB engine : like dbisam / nexusdb / accuracer ( all commercial )... or firebird ( freeware ) why not borland's BDE? Quote: if you have some robust experience with text file parsing etc. you will perhaps need something between 2 and 3 months development time... not so robust but I've some experience.. Back to top M0L0Ch Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? thank you very much.. in particular I was seeking opinions on the estimation of the time required for a such project... "Rodolfo Frino" <rodolfowrvxg527u7qfrino (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.jki> wrote Quote: Estimate the time it will take to implement each feature and the time of integrating all the features into one application, testing, debugging, etc. Then add all those times to get the total amout time T (hours). Then multiply T by your hourly rate (Dollars/hour) Cost = T * Dollars "Vision is the ability to predict and take advantage of it" Rodolfo, 2003 "M0L0Ch" <noemail (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fa6c745 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... here are a link to the features required http://www.weblogexpert.com/features.htm they will sell the prog to their customers (they're a hosting company) and probably no new versions since they've asked for the sources too.. really thanks for your help!! "Yahia El-Qasem" <Yahia.El-Qasem (AT) mgh (DOT) metro-ag.de> wrote in message news:3fa6c2cf (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... One would need pretty detailed description of the requirements / features... and whether the one who wants you make one needs it for internal use or for resseling or for bundling or or or.... whether you will be creating new versions with additional features ... No way to help without enough information... Yahia Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? Rodolfo Frino wrote: Quote: Estimate the time it will take to implement each feature and the time of integrating all the features into one application, testing, debugging, etc. Then add all those times to get the total amout time T (hours). Then multiply T by your hourly rate (Dollars/hour) Cost = T * Dollars You forgot to add "Then take your final estimate of hours and multiply by two. This number will then equate to some small, but finite, percentage of the hours that it actually takes..." David Erbas-White Back to top Yahia El-Qasem Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? BDE is complicated to install and : if you have more than one program using BDE esp. different BDE-version then you ARE in trouble... another point : it is outdated and no more supported... its performance is not that good... I used one time in my career the BDE for a program... and discarded it when I delivered the next version because it caused too much problems... the options I mentioned are embeddable into you app... so no messing around with different versions or installation routines... and usually : better performance than BDE and they all have good support :-) Yahia Back to top M0L0Ch Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? Quote: the options I mentioned are embeddable into you app... so no messing around with different versions or installation routines... eheheh :-) Quote: and usually : better performance than BDE and they all have good support Back to top R.F. Pels Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? M0L0Ch wrote: Quote: someone asked me to write a program like http://www.weblogexpert.com http://www.loganalyzer.net practically a log analyzer for webserver..the guys wants to know how much a such program will cost to him. Oh. Eehm. Start out with the webalizer source code, develop extra modules which you let him pay and contribute them to webalizer project. Don't write the thing from scratch. That would be a waste of money. -- Ruurd Back to top M0L0Ch Guest Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? wow!! thankss!! :) Quote: Oh. Eehm. Start out with the webalizer source code, develop extra modules which you let him pay and contribute them to webalizer project. Don't write the thing from scratch. That would be a waste of money. -- Ruurd Back to top Fernando Guest Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: how much for a program? On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:28:26 +0100, "Yahia El-Qasem" <Yahia.El-Qasem (AT) mgh (DOT) metro-ag.de> wrote: Quote: the options I mentioned are embeddable into you app... so no messing around with different versions or installation routines... and usually : better performance than BDE and they all have good support has anyone tried using the new embeddable version of MySQL with a BCB app? 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