BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS..          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (IDE) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message JasperP Guest Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS.. What I know and what I do: ----------------------------- - Set the standard Build Configuration 'Release Build' to 'Active'. - Uncheck 'Use dynamic RTL'. - Uncheck 'Build with runtime packages'. But do I now Build the Project with unwanted LIB's/Runtime packages and DLL's? How should I approach this? Also, If I examine the .exe I see: --------------------------- - Not-used mouse-pointers for example and SQL-hourglass (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) (I know they are 'part of' the default pointers, but other unused default pointers are NOT in the .exe) - Not-used Bitmaps (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) BBABORT BBALL BBCANCEL BBCLOSE BBHELP BBIGNORE BBNO BBOK BBRETRY BBYES PREVIEWGLYPH - A TLoginDialog (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) Jasper Back to top oddian@gmail.com Guest Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS.. What you're choosing to do is build with statically linked libraries thus including the normal RTL libs in your exe. This may mean that you have a whole bunch of functionality that you do not require or use built into your appliaction (though by the sounds of it you probably do use a few of the items you've mentioned below even if you don't know it) but you don't need the libraries on the final client so the install is often as simple as copying the executable. Hope that helps Regards Daniel JasperP wrote: Quote: What I know and what I do: ----------------------------- - Set the standard Build Configuration 'Release Build' to 'Active'. - Uncheck 'Use dynamic RTL'. - Uncheck 'Build with runtime packages'. But do I now Build the Project with unwanted LIB's/Runtime packages and DLL's? How should I approach this? Also, If I examine the .exe I see: --------------------------- - Not-used mouse-pointers for example and SQL-hourglass (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) (I know they are 'part of' the default pointers, but other unused default pointers are NOT in the .exe) - Not-used Bitmaps (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) BBABORT BBALL BBCANCEL BBCLOSE BBHELP BBIGNORE BBNO BBOK BBRETRY BBYES PREVIEWGLYPH - A TLoginDialog (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) Jasper Back to top Jim Dodd Guest Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS.. JasperP wrote: Quote: What I know and what I do: ----------------------------- - Set the standard Build Configuration 'Release Build' to 'Active'. - Uncheck 'Use dynamic RTL'. - Uncheck 'Build with runtime packages'. But do I now Build the Project with unwanted LIB's/Runtime packages and DLL's? How should I approach this? Also, If I examine the .exe I see: --------------------------- - Not-used mouse-pointers for example and SQL-hourglass (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) (I know they are 'part of' the default pointers, but other unused default pointers are NOT in the .exe) - Not-used Bitmaps (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) BBABORT BBALL BBCANCEL BBCLOSE BBHELP BBIGNORE BBNO BBOK BBRETRY BBYES PREVIEWGLYPH - A TLoginDialog (which I didn't use or have tried in the project) Jasper I hope others will answer you but for now I will say that it has always been this way (with C++ Builder at least). It has always seemed wasteful to me but it is a benign waste My guess is that it could be fixed but since there are so many other, more important things to fix that these annoyances have been left alone. The worst of these, to me at least, is the including of unused libraries and packages in the project file. When I pass a working project to a colleague who doesn't happen to have one of the libraries referenced in the project file, he can't build it until I go in and edit the project file removing unnecessary libraries and packages. Sorry for the non-answer. Regards, Jim Dodd Onset Computer Corp. Back to top David Dean Guest Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS.. In article <44f6fbf0$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, Jim Dodd <bcbuilderboy (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: When I pass a working project to a colleague who doesn't happen to have one of the libraries referenced in the project file, he can't build it until I go in and edit the project file removing unnecessary libraries and packages. One of the great things in BDS 2006 is the new dialog that pops up for most of these where you can say "Remove this from project" -- -David Quis custodiet custodes ipsos? Back to top D. Mills Guest Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS.. "David Dean" <ozchzhq02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-1A06C3.12185131082006 (AT) frylock (DOT) local... Quote: In article <44f6fbf0$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, Jim Dodd <bcbuilderboy (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: When I pass a working project to a colleague who doesn't happen to have one of the libraries referenced in the project file, he can't build it until I go in and edit the project file removing unnecessary libraries and packages. One of the great things in BDS 2006 is the new dialog that pops up for most of these where you can say "Remove this from project" As well as one of the worst, when it doesn't work, and keep asking if you want to remove idectrls.lib, which doesn't actually exist on any of our systems, and the "phantom" idectrls.lib entry does not exist anywhere in any bdsproj file. You tell it to remove the reference and you get a linker error for the exact file you told it to remove. I'm afraid it's not one of the great things IMHO, but it would be if it worked every time :) D.Mills Back to top David Dean Guest Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS.. In article <44f70dd3 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "D. Mills" <DMills.spam (AT) spam (DOT) kronos.com> wrote: Quote: I'm afraid it's not one of the great things IMHO, but it would be if it worked every time I agree that it doesn't work all of the time, but when it works, it saves a lot of hassle. If you have good test cases where it fails, please submit them to QC. -- -David Quis custodiet custodes ipsos? Back to top JasperP Guest Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS.. Jim Dodd wrote: Quote: Sorry for the non-answer. It is an answer though, I really wanted to hear other people's ideas about this. Looks like the including of unused libraries and packages can only be avoided if you do a check-per-item and that would be a bit of a waste of time each time. Jasper Back to top D. Mills Guest Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: How to proper Build for 'Deployment' in BDS.. "David Dean" <ozchzhq02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-E9004B.12360831082006 (AT) frylock (DOT) local... Quote: In article <44f70dd3 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "D. Mills" <DMills.spam (AT) spam (DOT) kronos.com> wrote: I'm afraid it's not one of the great things IMHO, but it would be if it worked every time :) I agree that it doesn't work all of the time, but when it works, it saves a lot of hassle. If you have good test cases where it fails, please submit them to QC. Hi David, I would if I had any way of reproducing it, other than several projects we have always eventually generate the errors, with no apparent rhyme or reason, so until then I won't put it into QC. Deleting the .dsk file seems to fix it at least temporarily anyway, so perhaps they are getting corrupted, I'll try turning off all the autosave desktop stuff and see if it goes away. 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