BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Peter Zolja Guest Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... Quote: Its this sort of trolling that makes this group worth coming to... LOL !!! Back to top Kristofer Skaug Guest Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... "Jake" wrote Quote: Just like with the Terminator, the sequel was better than the original. .... a rare phenomenon indeed! <G> Kristofer Back to top Jason Guest Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... "Jason Southwell" <jason (AT) southwell (DOT) net> wrote <SNIP> Quote: Jason Southwell President and CEO Arcana Technologies www.arcanatech.com That was so funny!!! Back to top Andy Gibson Guest Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:02 am    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... Frankly, I'll just be happy if they fix the problem of my machine locking up for 5-15 seconds every 5 minutes while 'does something'. I'm guessing its related to auto-complete in someway since I get the problem a lot if I type something like 'MyObject<dot>'. Problem is that it does it randomly, even if I am just navigating around the source code. Damn annoying... Also, I was doing a phone installation of Delphi 7 the other day, and they were trying to build our application. I told the guy to Project->Build. and waited, and waited, and waited. It took forever. I could compile the same application 10 times on my machine in the time it took him to compile it once. I was on Delphi 6 on a PIII with 256 Meg Ram, he was on delphi 7 with a P4 with 256 Meg Ram... What gives? I never did the D6 Upgrade, but will probably do D8 for .net & Stuff. Crossing my fingers for some IDE updates..... Cheers, Andy Were there any slow downs in D7? "Jason Southwell" <jason (AT) southwell (DOT) net> wrote Quote: After using D1-D7 and the .NET preview, I must say that I am sick and tired of being so productive. I'm tired as hell of working smarter and not harder. My self esteem is really low because I keep telling myself that I should be working harder, that I'm getting away with something. I should be more like developers in all those other languages. I wish Delphi syntax could be more like C's. I'm am tired of saying that I am ready to "begin" a section and deciding when it should "end". That is just too simple. I feel like I'm cheating. { and } would make so much more sense, and give me a greater sense of fulfilment. I wish Delphi would compile slower. I know that I feel like a real dunce every time I throw some code at Delphi and it doesn't even take a second to figure out what I meant by it. With other languages my coding eloquence sometimes takes minutes to figure out. But not with Delphi... I wish my code wouldn't compile for Windows and Linux. It's so tough to justify charging my client's per platform when I only did the work once. If I could only do the work twice, my conscience would at least be clear. I wish the Delphi community wasn't so dedicated and helpful. I feel as though I'm getting away with something everytime I search Google for a free answer. Maybe if Delphi weren't so great, people wouldn't stand behind it so strongly. I just hope that Borland has finally found the right path and decided to phone it in for D8. Maybe then I'll sleep better at nights. -- Jason Southwell President and CEO Arcana Technologies www.arcanatech.com Back to top Nicholas Sherlock Guest Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... "Andy Gibson" <delphi_pa (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Frankly, I'll just be happy if they fix the problem of my machine locking up for 5-15 seconds every 5 minutes while 'does something'. I'm guessing its related to auto-complete in someway since I get the problem a lot if I type something like 'MyObject<dot>'. Problem is that it does it randomly, even if I am just navigating around the source code. Damn annoying... I got a speed increase by turning on the option to save compiler symbols. Cheers, Nicholas Sherlock Back to top Danny Thorpe Guest Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... Defrag the hard disk. Makes a world of difference for disk-bound things like compiling sources and loading DCU symbols. -Danny "Andy Gibson" <delphi_pa (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Frankly, I'll just be happy if they fix the problem of my machine locking up for 5-15 seconds every 5 minutes while 'does something'. I'm guessing its related to auto-complete in someway since I get the problem a lot if I type something like 'MyObject<dot>'. Problem is that it does it randomly, even if I am just navigating around the source code. Damn annoying... Also, I was doing a phone installation of Delphi 7 the other day, and they were trying to build our application. I told the guy to Project->Build. and waited, and waited, and waited. It took forever. I could compile the same application 10 times on my machine in the time it took him to compile it once. I was on Delphi 6 on a PIII with 256 Meg Ram, he was on delphi 7 with a P4 with 256 Meg Ram... What gives? I never did the D6 Upgrade, but will probably do D8 for .net & Stuff. Crossing my fingers for some IDE updates..... Cheers, Andy Were there any slow downs in D7? "Jason Southwell" <jason (AT) southwell (DOT) net> wrote in message news:3f07edaf$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... After using D1-D7 and the .NET preview, I must say that I am sick and tired of being so productive. I'm tired as hell of working smarter and not harder. My self esteem is really low because I keep telling myself that I should be working harder, that I'm getting away with something. I should be more like developers in all those other languages. I wish Delphi syntax could be more like C's. I'm am tired of saying that I am ready to "begin" a section and deciding when it should "end". That is just too simple. I feel like I'm cheating. { and } would make so much more sense, and give me a greater sense of fulfilment. I wish Delphi would compile slower. I know that I feel like a real dunce every time I throw some code at Delphi and it doesn't even take a second to figure out what I meant by it. With other languages my coding eloquence sometimes takes minutes to figure out. But not with Delphi... I wish my code wouldn't compile for Windows and Linux. It's so tough to justify charging my client's per platform when I only did the work once. If I could only do the work twice, my conscience would at least be clear. I wish the Delphi community wasn't so dedicated and helpful. I feel as though I'm getting away with something everytime I search Google for a free answer. Maybe if Delphi weren't so great, people wouldn't stand behind it so strongly. I just hope that Borland has finally found the right path and decided to phone it in for D8. Maybe then I'll sleep better at nights. -- Jason Southwell President and CEO Arcana Technologies www.arcanatech.com Back to top Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... Danny Thorpe wrote: Quote: Defrag the hard disk. Makes a world of difference for disk-bound things like compiling sources and loading DCU symbols. Ok, Danny, I have tried to cut you some slack, but please, as a Borland employee and top engineer, you should actually be giving a good example. So please don't overquote (quote large parts of previous messages, while adding only a few lines of your own). Simply delete *most* (but not all) of it, before sending. <evil g> -- Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) "There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread." - Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) Back to top Danny Thorpe Guest Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... Quote: "There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread." - Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) Ok, I'll try harder. ;> Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... In borland.public.delphi.non-technical, Danny Thorpe <nomail (AT) borland (DOT) com> wrote in message <3f25973a$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>... Quote: "There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread." - Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) Ok, I'll try harder. "Man can not live by bread alone." -Jesus Christ <g> -- ***Posted by Jake's Custom Newsgroup Reader*** Posted using Jake's Super Newsreader 0.9.2.953 Back to top Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... Danny Thorpe wrote: Quote: "There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread." - Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) Ok, I'll try harder. ; ;-) -- Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) "I don't feel good." - The last words of Luther Burbank (1849-1926) Back to top Bob Dawson Guest Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Why D8 had better be so-so... "Captain Jake" wrote Quote: "Man can not live by bread alone." -Jesus Christ Which is, as Ghandi was pointing out, both a really important thing to remember when you have bread, and a really important thing to remember about the thought processes of those who don't. bobD Back to top Shawn Oster Guest Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Why is D2006 so much better than D2005? "Brad White" <bwhite at inebraska.com> wrote in message news:43e0cbe3$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:43e0ab97 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I note that it is widely recognized that D2006 is of much better quality that D2005. Has there been any public discussion of what caused the improvement? John, I would guess that it is a combination of three things. 2) FastMM giving clear indications of where there were memory leaks, etc. I assume that they were using other automated tools before FastMM for similar checking, but this runs all the time, not just a special test run. It's interesting. I thought I remember reading on one of their developer blogs (Craig S. maybe?) how they had just discovered using AutomatedQA for finding memory leaks. This was post-2005 release I believe. I was amazed that they hadn't been using AQA since the beginning. Shawn Back to top Wayne Niddery [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: What Borland should stop wasting their time on Trevor de Koekkoek wrote: Quote: I have to heartily disagree with this. I use ClientDataSets in all places where I have a database application, for a number of reasons. First off, I find them easier to maintain. CDS provide a number of facilities such as grouping and child datasets that are not provided by others (at least not with BDE). Sorry, you missed the point - it is not about using CDS, it is about not using it *specifically* with *dbGO (ADO)*. Doing so is redundant as the ADO components have at least most of the same features as the CDS components - i.e. disconnected cached datasets. As Craig has mentioned in this thread already, it appears MS modelled the ADO componentst directly on the Borland CDS/Provider components. For other dataset types CDS is perfectly correct to use, and with dbExpress, they are necessary. -- Wayne Niddery - Logic Fundamentals, Inc. (www.logicfundamentals.com) RADBooks: http://www.logicfundamentals.com/RADBooks.html "Those who disdain wealth as a worthy goal for an individual or a society seem not to realize that wealth is the only thing that can prevent poverty." - Thomas Sowell Back to top David Smith Guest Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Why is D2006 so much better than D2005? Shawn Oster kirjoitti: Quote: It's interesting. I thought I remember reading on one of their developer blogs (Craig S. maybe?) how they had just discovered using AutomatedQA for finding memory leaks. This was post-2005 release I believe. I was amazed that they hadn't been using AQA since the beginning. No, they didn't just discover AutomatedQA and they were not writing about memory leaks. They just discovered AQTime *4* which was released just earlier. And they were searching for speed bottlenecks at that time. And the person was Corbin Dunn. http://blogs.borland.com/corbindunn/archive/2004/06/18/528.aspx Check your facts and you don't have to be so amazed. David S. Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: D7 and D2007 ozbear wrote: Quote: Forward compatibility is impossible to implement.. In this specific case, it's not impossible; just possibly fraught with unwanted side-effects. 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