BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Bold for Delphi design          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi OO design View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Graeme Geldenhuys Guest Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Bold for Delphi design Hi, I don't know anything about Bold for Delphi (or whatever the name is now). I'm just curious to know what Bold is based on. Is it based on MVP, MVC or on it's own design? From the little bit I have read so far, Bold seem to be a OPF, VTF and Presentation Framework (MVC, MVP, MGM) all in one. And no, I am not considering using Bold (I need cross platform apps without .NET), I'm just interested in it's design. :-) Regards, - Graeme - Back to top Roland Bengtsson Guest Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Bold for Delphi design Hi! I use Bold for Delphi daily in my work. Bold is a system that aloud you to make a UML-model with classes and their relationsships. Generate SQL-script that create or change the actual database. Each class have properties and methods. Bold can generate Delphi method prototypes to easy access to the modelled classes. The purpose is to objectify data in the database for easy access. There is also a lot of components to access and display data in Delphi. Roland Bengtsson Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Quote: Hi, I don't know anything about Bold for Delphi (or whatever the name is now). I'm just curious to know what Bold is based on. Is it based on MVP, MVC or on it's own design? From the little bit I have read so far, Bold seem to be a OPF, VTF and Presentation Framework (MVC, MVP, MGM) all in one. And no, I am not considering using Bold (I need cross platform apps without .NET), I'm just interested in it's design. :-) Regards, - Graeme - Back to top Joao Morais Guest Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Bold for Delphi design Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Quote: I don't know anything about Bold for Delphi (or whatever the name is now). I'm just curious to know what Bold is based on. Is it based on MVP, MVC or on it's own design? From the little bit I have read so far, Bold seem to be a OPF, VTF and Presentation Framework (MVC, MVP, MGM) all in one. And no, I am not considering using Bold (I need cross platform apps without .NET), I'm just interested in it's design. Bold (D7 Architect) is an OPF framework that ECO (Delphi.net) is based on. Instead a design pattern, it uses its own components for presentation purposes, just like old versions of tiOPF did. -- Joao Morais Back to top Graeme Geldenhuys Guest Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Bold for Delphi design Joao Morais wrote: Quote: Bold (D7 Architect) is an OPF framework that ECO (Delphi.net) is based on. Instead a design pattern, it uses its own components for presentation purposes, just like old versions of tiOPF did. Ah, that's a pitty. I think it would have been even more flexible if they followed the MVC, MVP or MGM pattern instead of creating another bunch of components (as if the Component Palette doesn't have enough already <smile>). Thanks for the info Joao. Regards, - Graeme - Back to top Graeme Geldenhuys Guest Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Bold for Delphi design Thanks Roland, Does Bold always use the Attibute Types (TBoldAttribute descendant) for properties, or can you use simple types (String, Integer, TDateTime, etc) as well? Regards, - Graeme - Roland Bengtsson wrote: Quote: Hi! I use Bold for Delphi daily in my work. Bold is a system that aloud you to make a UML-model with classes and their relationsships. Generate SQL-script that create or change the actual database. Each class have properties and methods. Bold can generate Delphi method prototypes to easy access to the modelled classes. The purpose is to objectify data in the database for easy access. There is also a lot of components to access and display data in Delphi. Roland Bengtsson Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, I don't know anything about Bold for Delphi (or whatever the name is now). I'm just curious to know what Bold is based on. Is it based on MVP, MVC or on it's own design? From the little bit I have read so far, Bold seem to be a OPF, VTF and Presentation Framework (MVC, MVP, MGM) all in one. And no, I am not considering using Bold (I need cross platform apps without .NET), I'm just interested in it's design. :-) Regards, - Graeme - Back to top Bart Guest Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Bold for Delphi design Hi Graeme, Found this yesterday. http://www.lhotka.net/cslanet/ You might be intrested in it. Take a look and see for yoursef. As far as I can see now it is an extensive framework free to use. Not in delphi but maybe to study. HTH Bart Netherlands By the way I loved Cape Town :) "Graeme Geldenhuys" <graemeg (AT) spamfilter (DOT) co.za> schreef in bericht news:459e486a (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Joao Morais wrote: Bold (D7 Architect) is an OPF framework that ECO (Delphi.net) is based on. Instead a design pattern, it uses its own components for presentation purposes, just like old versions of tiOPF did. Ah, that's a pitty. I think it would have been even more flexible if they followed the MVC, MVP or MGM pattern instead of creating another bunch of components (as if the Component Palette doesn't have enough already smile>). Thanks for the info Joao. Regards, - Graeme - Back to top Peter Morris [Droopy eyes Guest Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Bold for Delphi design Quote: OPF Yes Quote: VTF Yes Quote: Presentation Framework (MVC, MVP, MGM) all in one. No idea Basically you inherit from an existing control and add a TBoldProperties property to it, a couple of lines later you have a TBoldEdit for example. There are lots of existing controls. Quote: And no, I am not considering using Bold (I need cross platform apps without .NET), I'm just interested in it's design. Which platforms? -- -- Pete Blessed are the geek, for they shall public class GeekEarth : Earth {} ==== Audio compression components, DIB graphics controls, ECO extensions, FastStrings http://www.droopyeyes.com http://mrpmorris.blogspot.com ==== Back to top Graeme Geldenhuys Guest Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Bold for Delphi design Peter Morris [Droopy eyes software] wrote: Quote: Presentation Framework (MVC, MVP, MGM) all in one. No idea Basically you inherit from an existing control and add a TBoldProperties property to it, a couple of lines later you have a TBoldEdit for example. There are lots of existing controls. I found out that it doesn't use any of those presentation frameworks. They created yet more controls (Bold specific ones are descendants of standard controls) on the control palette. :-( Quote: And no, I am not considering using Bold (I need cross platform apps without .NET), I'm just interested in it's design. :-) Which platforms? Linux and Windows native apps mainly, but starting to look at WinCE as well. Currently using the Free Pascal compiler. 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