BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Licence question          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message JMA Guest Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Licence question The harddrive on my notebook gave up a few days ago and I got a new one (drive). For several reasons I installed Vista on the machine and now I have to install my TC++ Pro licence. Is there a way to uninstall the licence I had on my old drive (it still boots but the amount of bad blocks severly hinders me from doing any real work) ?? I have installed TC++ on my desktop PC at work and on my notebook (used at home and "on the road"). This makes for two installations. Without any deinstallation installing on Vista increases my count to 3. While this is probably no problem it does makes me think what will happen in the future. In a year or two I might have passed a few disks/machines and the installed count might rise above what CG think is resonable. Hopefully, I'll use some sort of C++ Builder/TC 2007/2008 then but if for some reason I hang on to my old version ?? /\/\artin Back to top David Dean [CodeGear] Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Licence question In article <46293a56$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, JMA <ma1999atjmase> wrote: Quote: While this is probably no problem it does makes me think what will happen in the future. In a year or two I might have passed a few disks/machines and the installed count might rise above what CG think is resonable. AIUI, we'll bump the number of allowed installs with just a phone call. -- -David Dean CodeGear C++ QA Engineer <http://blogs.codegear.com/ddean/> Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Licence question David Dean [CodeGear] wrote: Quote: In article <46293a56$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, JMA <ma1999atjmase wrote: While this is probably no problem it does makes me think what will happen in the future. In a year or two I might have passed a few disks/machines and the installed count might rise above what CG think is resonable. AIUI, we'll bump the number of allowed installs with just a phone call. And we're back to the question of what happens if/when CodeGear isn't around 'in a few years'. I've worked for lots of places over the years, some distinct companies, some divisions of major corporations. I've also worked as a consultant for a number of places. Of all those places that I've EVER worked, over thirty years, only ONE even exists today. Many of them don't even exist as physical locations any more (one of my early jobs for a division of Xerox was bulldozed and is now a car dealership, another major aerospace plant is now a Chinese bank, etc.) This is a separate and distinct issue from whether or not CodeGear is 'doing the right thing' and will survive based on their actions -- they are just as likely to die because they're bought by a company that proceeds to 'kill' aspects of the product line. You can look at that in the compiler industry itself, let alone in other parts of the software industry (let alone in industry in general). So, while the 'phone call' solution "sounds" nice, it's NOT a solution to the overall, long-term problem. David Erbas-White Back to top Bertrand Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Licence question Quote: AIUI, we'll bump the number of allowed installs with just a phone call. And what about non-english-spoken customers or customers from countries where phone call to US is a huge expense ? Is that bump possible e.g. after sending an email ? Bertrand Back to top Clayton Arends Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Licence question Quote: I've worked for lots of places over the years, ... Of all those places that I've EVER worked, over thirty years, only ONE even exists today. So you working for a company should be considered a kiss of death ;-) Quote: So, while the 'phone call' solution "sounds" nice, it's NOT a solution to the overall, long-term problem. Agreed. However, once a company dies then the hackers (much like scavengers in the desert) can come out of their hiding and legally release their activation hacks. - Clayton Back to top David Dean [CodeGear] Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Licence question In article <462b4193 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, Bertrand <no_spam (AT) no_spam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: And what about non-english-spoken customers or customers from countries where phone call to US is a huge expense ? There are numbers all over the world, but you can also handle installation and registration issues online: <http://support.codegear.com/article/34334> -- -David Dean CodeGear C++ QA Engineer <http://blogs.codegear.com/ddean/> Back to top David Dean [CodeGear] Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Licence question In article <462b06e5$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, David Erbas-White <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: And we're back to the question of what happens if/when CodeGear isn't around 'in a few years'. And that horse has been beaten into the ground on the Delphi news groups. You should realize that I have no control over that. Nick and the other managers are aware of the concerns about product activation. I hope they can find a more customer friendly solution. Until they do, we'll do as much as we can to help people who are having trouble. -- -David Dean CodeGear C++ QA Engineer <http://blogs.codegear.com/ddean/> Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Licence question David Dean [CodeGear] wrote: Quote: In article <462b06e5$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, David Erbas-White <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote: And we're back to the question of what happens if/when CodeGear isn't around 'in a few years'. And that horse has been beaten into the ground on the Delphi news groups. You should realize that I have no control over that. Nick and the other managers are aware of the concerns about product activation. I hope they can find a more customer friendly solution. Until they do, we'll do as much as we can to help people who are having trouble. And it's been beaten into the ground because there has been no public response to support the supposition that escrow even exists. Unless and until satisfactory answers are given to such questions (and note the word 'satisfactory'), you can expect to see customers continuing to beat the horse (because to us, it's not dead, merely 'resting'). David Erbas-White Back to top David Dean [CodeGear] Guest Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: Licence question In article <462c5141$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, David Erbas-White <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: Unless and until satisfactory answers are given to such questions (and note the word 'satisfactory'), you can expect to see customers continuing to beat the horse (because to us, it's not dead, merely 'resting'). What I was trying to say is that piling on me about this issue when I post trying to help someone isn't going to help resolve the issue. I agree that the answers you've been given by management aren't satisfactory. -- -David Dean CodeGear C++ QA Engineer <http://blogs.codegear.com/ddean/> Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: Licence question David Dean [CodeGear] wrote: Quote: In article <462c5141$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, David Erbas-White <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote: Unless and until satisfactory answers are given to such questions (and note the word 'satisfactory'), you can expect to see customers continuing to beat the horse (because to us, it's not dead, merely 'resting'). What I was trying to say is that piling on me about this issue when I post trying to help someone isn't going to help resolve the issue. I agree that the answers you've been given by management aren't satisfactory. And I appreciate your help, appreciate the situation your in, am very glad you're on the CodeGear side of the fence, and thank you for all that you do. (Really!) I probably wouldn't have jumped in if you'd said something like "...presently we'll bump the number of allowed installs..." (note that 'presently' has been added to your statement) -- this would have acknowledged that customer concerns about the future have some merit, while addressing the present-day situation. I'm very happy that CodeGear currently bumps up (or resets, whichever) the number of allowed installs when able to discuss it with the customer. Given the current situation, that's probably the best way to handle this (for most people). And I realize this is picking nits on what you said, but I really don't want folks to lose sight of the 'future' concerns of customers. I don't really think we're in disagreement on this one... <G> David Erbas-White Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Licence question David Dean [CodeGear] wrote: Quote: In article <462d2265$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, David Erbas-White <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote: this would have acknowledged that customer concerns about the future have some merit, while addressing the present-day situation. Thank you for the constructive criticism. I'll try to learn from it. 8-) Hey, at least I agreed it was a nit... <G> David Erbas-White Back to top David Dean [CodeGear] Guest Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Licence question In article <462d2265$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, David Erbas-White <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: this would have acknowledged that customer concerns about the future have some merit, while addressing the present-day situation. Thank you for the constructive criticism. 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