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Diego
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: All everyone wants is Unicode. Reply with quote



Check out Nick's response in the comments.

http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/the_microisv_sh.html
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Ralf Kaiser
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: All everyone wants is Unicode. Reply with quote



"Bernhard Geyer" <Bernhard.Geyer (AT) nospam (DOT) de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:463198dc$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
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http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/the_microisv_sh.html

Why want? I use Unicode in a big VCL-Application since 2002 with the help
of ElPack. And I have Unicode in the GUI even unter Win9x/ME.

That is fine for useres that use ElPack.

But an unicode enabled VCL would enable unicode in ALL 3rd party components!
So even users that do not use ElPack would be able to use unicode (and what
is if you need a special control that is not included in ElPack???)

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Ralf
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Jaakko Salmenius
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: All everyone wants is Unicode. Reply with quote



I really want Unicode support to VCL. Elpack and TNT are great but they are
not VCL. If VCL would be in Unicode that would make all 3rd party component
writers gradually support Unicode. Current situation is bad where every
vendor has different approach to Unicode.

VCL's biggest drawback is the lack of Unicode support. I need a VCL that
same source code gives be 32-bit and 64-bit with Unicode. I have been asking
this for past 10 years.

Best regards,
Jaakko
www.sisulizer.com
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Bernhard Geyer
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: All everyone wants is Unicode. Reply with quote

Quote:
http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/the_microisv_sh.html

Why want? I use Unicode in a big VCL-Application since 2002 with the
help of ElPack. And I have Unicode in the GUI even unter Win9x/ME.
And .NET doesn't support Unicode unter Win9x/ME (Ok, for new
applications in 2007 this isn't a high problem any more).
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JED
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: All everyone wants is Unicode. Reply with quote

Ralf Kaiser wrote:

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But an unicode enabled VCL would enable unicode in ALL 3rd party
components!

Exactly and would allow other 3rd party developers to easily make their
components unicode without every 3rd party doing their own
implementation.

Just like why on earth is there no VCL translation for GDI+ or PNG
support that everyone can take advantage of.

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Ivan Pastine
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: All everyone wants is Unicode. Reply with quote

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I tried. But news.lmd.de seems to be dead. Tried with both
XanaNews and Thunderbird.

And, I hate the HTTP interface. It takes ages to see all
the relevant thread.

I'll try again.

My understanding is that they have just renamed all their newsgroups which is probably why you are
having trouble (don't ask me why they did this, its anoying). If you click on the link on their home
page it doesn't work, its the old address. Try:

lmd.public.vcl.elpack

on the server:

news.lmd.de
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Anders Isaksson
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: All everyone wants is Unicode. Reply with quote

dk_sz wrote:

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Left is data stored by applications. Some examples
include HTML, XML, CSV? etc. When parsing
those files all the important characters are < 128

I don't understand this? Are your HTML, XML and CSV files full of
numbers only? No text? How do I discriminate between "LAN", "LAN" and
"LAN" (A, A-umlaut, A-ring) while only using characters with a code <
128?
(That's "a piece of metal", "county", "loan")

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Lars G
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: All everyone wants is Unicode. Reply with quote

"Anders Isaksson" <i.rather@not> skrev i en meddelelse
news:46399811$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
Quote:
dk_sz wrote:

Left is data stored by applications. Some examples
include HTML, XML, CSV? etc. When parsing
those files all the important characters are < 128

I don't understand this? Are your HTML, XML and CSV files full of
numbers only? No text? How do I discriminate between "LAN", "LAN" and
"LAN" (A, A-umlaut, A-ring) while only using characters with a code
128?
(That's "a piece of metal", "county", "loan")


As for HTML see http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-html40-970708/sgml/entities.html

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