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Caleb Hattingh
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Find next machine-representable number (or Delphi version of Reply with quote



Hi

I'm looking for a Delphi implementation of the "nextafter" function in
C (or something similar), which, given x and y (as, say, doubles),
returns a value that is the next machine-representable number after x
in the direction of y. I have one implementation of this already
(found in an fpc forum), but I'm checking to see whether anyone in the
basm group may have fiddled with something like this before. I
intend to use this to implement "out-rounding" for interval arithmetic
operations using operator overloading in the new Delphis.

Thanks
Caleb
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John Herbster
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Find next machine-representable number (or Delphi versio Reply with quote



"Caleb Hattingh" <caleb.hattingh (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote
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I'm looking for a Delphi implementation of the "nextafter"
function in C (or something similar), which, given x and y
(as, say, doubles), ...

Caleb,

You can find and extract such code from my
IEEE Number Analyzer, the Delphi source for which is
available from
http://cc.codegear.com/Item/23631,
The number analyzer, itself allows you can type in a
decimal number and see the *exact* floating point value.

HTH, JohnH
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Caleb Hattingh
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Find next machine-representable number (or Delphi versio Reply with quote



Quote:
You can find and extract such code from my
IEEE Number Analyzer, the Delphi source for which is
available from
http://cc.codegear.com/Item/23631,
The number analyzer, itself allows you can type in a
decimal number and see the *exact* floating point value.

John,

Your functions,

function SuccExtended(e: extended): extended;
function PredExtended(e: extended): extended;
function SuccDouble(d: double): double;
function PredDouble(d: double): double;
function SuccSingle(s: single): single;
function PredSingle(s: single): single;

are, I think, precisely what I was looking for.

After every interval math
operation, such as (for addition)
[a,b]+[c,d] = [a+c,b+d]

I'll be using instead (for double precision)
[a,b]+[c,d] = [PredDouble(a+c),SuccDouble(b+d]]

This should mean that my result interval always contains the true result,
right?

Put it another way, if I create an interval from a given double, e.g.

MyInterval.SetDoubleValue(0.1)

(Where MyInterval is one of the new operator-overloaded records),
then behind the scenes I do

MyInterval.LeftBound = PredDouble(0.1);
MyInterval.RightBound = SuccDouble(0.1);

Then I can be sure that my interval captures the true value? Using your
tool, it
certainly appears to be the case when I test several different numbers
using the TUpDown
control, and I've looked at the code for these functions, but it will take
me a little
more time to become familiar with what is happening.

Many thanks
Caleb
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John Herbster
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Find next machine-representable number (or Delphi versio Reply with quote

"Caleb Hattingh" <caleb.hattingh (AT) no (DOT) spam.gmail.com> wrote
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You can find and extract such code from my
http://cc.codegear.com/Item/23631,

Your functions,
function SuccExtended(e: extended): extended;
function PredExtended(e: extended): extended;
function SuccDouble(d: double): double;
function PredDouble(d: double): double;
function SuccSingle(s: single): single;
function PredSingle(s: single): single;
are, I think, precisely what I was looking for. ...
Many thanks

Caleb, I am glad that you may be able to make some
use of them. They have been tested, but I think not
exhaustively. If you find a problem, please let me know.
Yours, JohnH
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Nils Haeck
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Find next machine-representable number (or Delphi versio Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be simpler to use fixed point arithmetic for this?

Nils
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Caleb Hattingh
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Find next machine-representable number (or Delphi versio Reply with quote

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Wouldn't it be simpler to use fixed point arithmetic for this?

Without John's help: probably.
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