BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Language BASM View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Charalabos Michael Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Hello everybody, Please post here you're suggestions/improvents you like to see in the future versions Fastcode Library. Thank you -- Charalabos Michael - [Creation Power] - http://www.creationpower.gr Back to top Richard Jenkins Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead More AnsiString functions supporting the current locale. I may be wrong, but it seems that the only string functions that were optimized for speed were those not involving support for current locale. (Uppercase, Lowercase, CompareStr, CompareText, but not AnsiLowercase, AnsiUppercase, AnsiCompareText, nor AnsiCompareStr). Those are essential when you want to develop applications that analyze text that are not restricted to English. They are also much slower than the ones that have been optimized, so my guess is that the gain in speed could be much higher. "Charalabos Michael" <chmichael@_-_no_-_creationpower_-_spam_-_.com> wrote in message news:463fb1aa$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Hello everybody, Please post here you're suggestions/improvents you like to see in the future versions Fastcode Library. Thank you -- Charalabos Michael - [Creation Power] - http://www.creationpower.gr Back to top Tommi Prami Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead 1. Format* functions. Those are quite much used. Maybe good candidate, not sure which would be most important 2. Library build in way that functions could use internally the winner of other challenge 3. Anything that could speed up TObject descendants in generally. Might be one of the biggest boost out there if could speed up general object handling. Maybe by adding some smar data structures undet hte hood (if possible) to speed up is/as operatios etc... 4. StingList/TList speed ups, whole VCL-uses those... -Tommi Prami- Charalabos Michael wrote: Quote: Hello everybody, Please post here you're suggestions/improvents you like to see in the future versions Fastcode Library. Thank you Back to top Bart van der Werf Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead "Charalabos Michael" <chmichael@_-_no_-_creationpower_-_spam_-_.com> wrote in message news:463fb1aa$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Hello everybody, Please post here you're suggestions/improvents you like to see in the future versions Fastcode Library. Thank you TObject TList TStringList Back to top Ryan J. Mills Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead As suggested by some of the others, For some class optimizations I would suggest: TStringList TList As for function/procedure optimizations I would suggest Format (String formatter) All varients of StrToInt (StrToFloat etc) All varients of IntToStr (FloatToStr etc) Ryan. On Tue, 08 May 2007 02:06:14 +0300, Charalabos Michael <chmichael@_-_no_-_creationpower_-_spam_-_.com> wrote: Quote: Hello everybody, Please post here you're suggestions/improvents you like to see in the future versions Fastcode Library. Thank you Back to top Dennis Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Hi < but not AnsiLowercase, AnsiUppercase, AnsiCompareText, nor AnsiCompareStr. I agree, but that is actually suggestions for challenges. http://fastcode.sourceforge.net/challenge_content/coming_later.html Best regards Dennis Kjaer Christensen Back to top Dennis Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Hi All of you are suggesting new challenges. Remember that nothing gets into the library that is not the results of a challenge. Because of that the library can only contain existing functions that are target winners. Only usage modes (patching, direct calling, conditional compilation etc.) is defined by the library. The library must simply have the latest target winners from all challenges 52 * 16 ( for FP *3) = 832+ functions. Best regards Dennis Kjaer Christensen Back to top Anders Isaksson Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead I don't have any special function to suggest for the moment, but I would like to recommend those giving suggestions to *first* profile their program to see where the bottlenecks are, rather than going by 'gut-feeling'. It's no point doing Fastcode work for something that isn't a problem, even if it's slow. With Eric Grange's Sampling profiler statistics can be sampled from any Delphi program without too much intervention from the profiler. Maybe someone can chime in and give the download location for the latest version of this invaluable tool. -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/proglego.htm Gallery: http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/gallery/index.htm Back to top Charalabos Michael Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Hello Tommi, Quote: 1. Format* functions. Those are quite much used. Maybe good candidate, not sure which would be most important I agree on the format challenge. Someone can start it ? (Dennis ?) Quote: 2. Library build in way that functions could use internally the winner of other challenge I don't understand this part. Quote: 3. Anything that could speed up TObject descendants in generally. Might be one of the biggest boost out there if could speed up general object handling. Maybe by adding some smar data structures undet hte hood (if possible) to speed up is/as operatios etc... I think FastObj is extacly doing this but i think it's not updated .... (Can't include it in the Library because it doesn't meet the official Fastcode specs) Quote: 4. StingList/TList speed ups, whole VCL-uses those... I think dennis is the proper person to answer this question ... I Agree on a StringList challenge should be made too. (Actually replacing TStringlist with a Hashed StringList) -- Charalabos Michael - [Creation Power] - http://www.creationpower.gr Back to top Charalabos Michael Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Hello Ryan, Quote: Format (String formatter) All varients of StrToInt (StrToFloat etc) All varients of IntToStr (FloatToStr etc) FmtBuf is frequently used by most 3rd party VCL components. Making a challenge for better speed of FmtBuf it will speed up a lot our applications. -- Charalabos Michael - [Creation Power] - http://www.creationpower.gr Back to top Jouni Turunen Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Quote: With Eric Grange's Sampling profiler statistics can be sampled from any Delphi program without too much intervention from the profiler. Maybe someone can chime in and give the download location for the latest version of this invaluable tool. Link to Sampling profiler is here : http://www.fastcodeproject.org/ http://fastcode.sourceforge.net/FastcodeFileDownloads/SamplingProfiler-1.4.4.zip Regards, Jouni -- The Fastcode Project: http://www.fastcodeproject.org/ Back to top Tommi Prami Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Quote: 2. Library build in way that functions could use internally the winner of other challenge I don't understand this part. Like: function ABC_123_Pos(...): Integer begin Result := Fastcode.PosEx(...); end; Now challenges don't allow (for competetive reasons) to call other functions internally even it would be smart to do so in Library. -TP- Back to top Charalabos Michael Guest Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Hello Tommi, Quote: Now challenges don't allow (for competetive reasons) to call other functions internally even it would be smart to do so in Library. Well, a prefer to waste a few KBs for a better code organization in the library. -- Charalabos Michael - [Creation Power] - http://www.creationpower.gr Back to top Tommi Prami Guest Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Quote: Now challenges don't allow (for competetive reasons) to call other functions internally even it would be smart to do so in Library. Well, a prefer to waste a few KBs for a better code organization in the library. Hmm... I am not sure that I understand. You prefer which way. Current B&V type of stuff or my suggestion. I know that maintaining the library is not easy task, but I am willing to help if I just can... This could easily be done by Function authors by adding {$IFNDEF FASTCODE_LIBRARY} function MyPosEx(); .... {ENDIF} procedure MySomeStringProc(...); begin ... {$IFDEF FASTCODE_LIBRARY} Fastcode.PosEx(...); {$ELSE MyPosEx(...); {$ENDIF} ... end; If the person contributing to the challenge would like to contribute to the library also this would lead to better quality library IMHO. Because in some platform there could be (in this case PosEx) much superior PosEx function. Like seen some very different results in some functions on VIA-processor, basic RTL function, don't remember which one, was fastest of 'em all ?!. -TP- Back to top Dennis Guest Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Fastcode Library Suggestions Thead Hi Tommi I looks to me like you are not familiar with our library/targets and structure in general. Quote: Hmm... I am not sure that I understand. You prefer which way. Current B&V type of stuff or my suggestion. I know that maintaining the library is not easy task, but I am willing to help if I just can... B&V stuff ? The library contains all our winning functions and nothing else. Non Fastcode functions cannot be in a Fastcode library and including loosers makes no sense. Quote: If the person contributing to the challenge would like to contribute to the library also this would lead to better quality library IMHO. Because All functions are in the challenge and the best goes into the library. No person participates in a challenge with any functions that will not go into the library if they are winners. Quote: in some platform there could be (in this case PosEx) much superior PosEx Not really. Quote: function. Like seen some very different results in some functions on VIA-processor, basic RTL function, don't remember which one, was fastest of 'em all ?!. We need some proofs ;-) VIA is supported through our Blended targets. Potentially there exists a faster function on a given CPU that does not have its own target. We only have 6 CPU targets. VIA is not included because it is used much less than the other CPU's. We could have more CPU targets, but we can barely get benchmark results for the 6 we have and it would also make it much harder to maintain the library and it would be very big also. The Blended target winners are very often the same as the winners for the CPU targets and they are never much slower. The gain of adding a VIA target will be very low and IMHO not worth.the effort. 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