BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  .NET or not - any difference          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Alan T Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: .NET or not - any difference What will be the difference in building a simple database application, eg. MS Access, using Delphi for Win32 and for .NET? Are both using the Delphi language? Any differences in architecture? Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: .NET or not - any difference Alan T wrote: Quote: What will be the difference in building a simple database application, eg. MS Access, using Delphi for Win32 and for .NET? Are both using the Delphi language? Any differences in architecture? Using Delphi for Win32, I'd more than likely opt for dbGo for ADO. It's easy enough to use the same architecture in Delphi for .NET. -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Back to top Craig Guest Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: .NET or not - any difference Quote: Sorry, any coding differences in using D2007 for Win32 and BDS2006 (for .NET) ? MS Access is an example. With BDS2006 you can develop a .NET app with WinForms or VCL.NET. VCL.NET is basically an emulation of VCL for Win32 so if you go down that route then the coding differences between .NET and Win32 will be small. If you go down the WinForms route the coding difference will be large. As you don't seem to have a lot experience with .NET then VCL for .NET may be a good option although I normally wouldn't recommend it. Craig. Back to top Tony Caduto Guest Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: .NET or not - any difference Quote: SQL Server Express is a lot less crippled than the impression give here as is easy to maintain, and works well with .Net. Since the OP asked for simple database applciations, I suspect it will be very effective. Oliver Townshend It's still crippled and is purely a marketing move by M$. PostgreSQL also works well with .net and has a fully native ADO.net driver. Check it out here: http://npgsql.projects.postgresql.org/ PostgreSQL is a even better choice for a simple app as it has no limitations license wise and has a much small footprint than the bloated M$ SQL Server/Express,not to mention you have a choice of stored procedure languages including PLpgsql,PLphp,PLperl,PLJava and more. Not to mention you are not limited to any particular server OS as you are with M$, you can choose win32,Solaris,Linux,FreeBSD and the list goes on. The problem with the M$ SQL express version of SQL server is if your project ever grows and you need enterprise class features you have no choice but to purchase the full server licenses and any CALs that may be needed depending on how you licensed the server. Later, -- Tony Caduto http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Home of PG Lightning Admin for Postgresql and MySQL Back to top Oliver Townshend Guest Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: .NET or not - any difference Quote: It's still crippled and is purely a marketing move by M$. Read Euan Garden's Blog article "SQL Mythbusters - MSDE/SQL Express has a 5 concurrent user limit" http://blogs.msdn.com/euanga/archive/2006/03/09/545576.aspx. Any program I write which works against SQL Express will have the same speed when I run it against SQL Enterprise (on the same hardware). So that's not crippled. Quote: The problem with the M$ SQL express version of SQL server is if your project ever grows and you need enterprise class features you have no choice but to purchase the full server licenses and any CALs that may be needed depending on how you licensed the server. True. On the other hand, sometimes its easier to sell a client on an industry standard that they've heard of and can hire staff for, or even already have. But that wasn't really the OP's question was it? Oliver Townshend Back to top Tony Caduto Guest Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: .NET or not - any difference Oliver Townshend wrote: sometimes its easier to sell a client on an Quote: industry standard that they've heard of and can hire staff for I hate to say it, but that is almost a FUD statement, I hear the "We won't be able to hire anyone" all the time and not just for PostgreSQL, that's a big time thing with Delphi as well. The truth is even a modestly capable DBA can become "very" proficient with PostgreSQL in about a week, maybe even less. Later, -- Tony Caduto http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Home of PG Lightning Admin for Postgresql and MySQL Back to top Oliver Townshend Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: .NET or not - any difference Quote: Server? Sorry to break your bubble, but PostgreSQL just doesn't fly - it hasn't even taken off as yet.. I suppose in the end it depends on your market. I work in the Legal Industry and everyone uses SQL Server and Access and some people use Oracle. I also see the occasional MySQL database attached to an intranet. People talk about Linux and the like from time to time, but I rarely see it except for vertical applications and Oracle (which even then means its Red Hat). Oliver Townshend Back to top Alan T Guest Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: .NET or not - any difference I just found that say if developing .NET DB application we need to use SQLAdaptor rather than something like DataAccess in Delphi for Win32. "Markus.Humm" <markus.humm (AT) freenet (DOT) de> wrote in message news:4645b3fa (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Alan T schrieb: Hi, I just pick up the MS Access as example, most likely I will using MS SQL Server200/2005. If I use BDS 2006 WinForm (ie .NET), am I still using Delphi/Object Pascal? Basically yes. 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