BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enum si          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (IDE) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Kathleen Guest Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enum si Craig Farrell recommended to me (and, in searching Googled messages, I see he makes this same recommendation to others) that I turn on Show Command Line in my environment options, and then verify the -a (data alignment) and -b (enum size) options for my project. My command line OMITS the -a8 and -b settings, although they are selected in the Project Options dialog. The -b option (Enums always integer sized), in particular, is needed for my project to use Codebase (Sequiter), so I am particularly concerned that it does not show in the command line. I am running with Update 2 (dated April 8, 2006). Does anybody know why my command line would omit the -a and -b options? Thanks, Kathleen Back to top dhoke Guest Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enu Are you looking at an individual configuration (release or debug or ?) vs the All configurations, and perhaps they're set/unset differently in the individual area that is "current"ly selected, vs the (your) view(ing) of "All"? "Kathleen" <KathleenDELETEb (AT) askDELETEcnet (DOT) org> wrote in message news:464877ea$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Craig Farrell recommended to me (and, in searching Googled messages, I see he makes this same recommendation to others) that I turn on Show Command Line in my environment options, and then verify the -a (data alignment) and -b (enum size) options for my project. My command line OMITS the -a8 and -b settings, although they are selected in the Project Options dialog. The -b option (Enums always integer sized), in particular, is needed for my project to use Codebase (Sequiter), so I am particularly concerned that it does not show in the command line. I am running with Update 2 (dated April 8, 2006). Does anybody know why my command line would omit the -a and -b options? Thanks, Kathleen Back to top Kathleen Guest Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enu dhoke wrote: Quote: Are you looking at an individual configuration (release or debug or ?) vs the All configurations, and perhaps they're set/unset differently in the individual area that is "current"ly selected, vs the (your) view(ing) of "All"? Viewing All, Release and Debug configurations, Data Alignment is set to 8 Byte (-a, and Enums always integer sized is checked (-b). I have been setting my options with All Configurations selected. I take it you are telling me that YOUR command line (both the one you see when you are in Project Options | Command Line, and the one you see when you check Tools | Options | Environment Options | Show command line, and compile a unit) display values for -a and (if you select it) -b, is that correct? BTW, I mentioned this in another thread, but didn't in this one: If I select a data alignment OTHER THAN 8-byte, -a turns up in my command line. When I set it back to 8-byte, it disappears again. This is happening in all of my projects. It is making me crazy. Kathleen Back to top Jonathan Benedicto Guest Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enu Kathleen wrote: Quote: Does anybody know why my command line would omit the -a and -b options? IIRC, those options are on by default in the compiler, so unless you explicitly turn them off, the IDE does not include them in the command-line. HTH Jon Back to top Craig Farrell Guest Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enu Hi again, Quote: select a data alignment OTHER THAN 8-byte, -a turns up in my command line. When I set it back to 8-byte, it disappears again. Sorry for being unclear. If it is a default setting it may not show. Use bcc33.exe -h to show the help screen for the command line switches in a command prompt. Use this to determine when an option is the default. It sounds like everything is working right when -a8 disappears because that is bcc32.exe's default. --Craig Back to top Kathleen Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enu Craig Farrell wrote: Quote: Hi again, Sorry for being unclear. If it is a default setting it may not show. Use bcc33.exe -h to show the help screen for the command line switches in a command prompt. Use this to determine when an option is the default. It sounds like everything is working right when -a8 disappears because that is bcc32.exe's default. --Craig Hi Craig, Well, I'm just getting more and more confused, particularly with regard to the default for enum size. When I look at my Default Project Settings (no project open), "Enums always integer sized" is UNCHECKED (off). It appears in the command line as "-b-". But the help for bcc32.exe says the default is "* -b Make enums integer-sized (-b- makes them short as possible)". The asterisk indicates that ON is the default setting. Does it make sense that the default would be ON? That wasn't the case in BCB6. If the default is ON, then why is my Default Project Options panel showing it defaulted to OFF (unchecked)? I suppose it is possible that I overrode the shipping default somewhere along the way, but I really don't think I did. And, not for nothin', the default for Standard Stack Frames is ON (-k), yet it shows up in the command line. I'm not doubting you that defaults are suppressed from view, but this policy is applied inconsistently, and isn't this sort of analysis hard enough without playing a shell game? Thank you for helping. Kathleen Back to top Craig Farrell Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enu Hi, Quote: When I look at my Default Project Settings (no project open), "Enums always integer sized" is UNCHECKED (off). The BDS implementation of default projects is very bad, IMO. The interface you see in Project Options | Default Options in showing you, not the default defaults, but is to allow you to create some defaults, so if you click OK in that Project Options dialog while the "default" checkbox is ON, it applies your customizations to this file c:\documents and settings\<username>\local settings\application data\borland\bds\4.0\DefProject.bdsproj ....which is then used in all susbsequent new projects. Quote: as "-b-". But the help for bcc32.exe says the default is "* -b Make enums integer-sized (-b- makes them short as possible)". The asterisk indicates that ON is the default setting. ON is the default for the command line but not default projects which is why -b- shows in the IDE command line. Quote: Does it make sense that the default would be ON? That wasn't the case in BCB6. The important thing is what that the command lines are the same in your BCB6 project that works and your BDS project. If they are different in that one is missing, then it is OK if the missing switch is the bcc32.exe default. I agreee that this is confusing, sorry! Quote: And, not for nothin', the default for Standard Stack Frames is ON (-k), yet it shows up in the command line. Yes, that is an inconsistency I did not notice. The IDE should pass them all IMO, default of not. --Craig Back to top Kathleen Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: BDS2006 command line does not show data alignment or enu Craig Farrell wrote: Quote: The important thing is what that the command lines are the same in your BCB6 project that works and your BDS project. If they are different in that one is missing, then it is OK if the missing switch is the bcc32.exe default. I agreee that this is confusing, sorry! With what I have learned from you, my settings in the two projects agree. I have just got off the phone with Sequiter, and they have sent me their project make files for Codebase for C++ Builder. I'm going to try to rebuild the library using BDS2006, and see if that makes the difference. Thank you again for all of your help and patient explanations! 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