BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  bdsproj2mak          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (IDE) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message grahamo Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: bdsproj2mak Hi, The bdsproj2mak utility is broken in the codegear version of BDS 2006. I have contacted support and its not going to be fixed/patched anytime soon. This puts the use of the IDE out of our reach, we absolutley must be able to build using make and .mak files. Without this utility we definitely switch to microsoft visual studio... its seems years ahead in terms of reliability and usability. My question is this. has anybody got a working version of bdsproj2mak. It seems bizarre that we are the only users to absolutely use this functionality. does anybody else out there have the same issues and if yes, how do they workaround the bug. It's a pretty major issue and I reckon we're not the only ones out there to require it. Sigh. All this migration work to BDS and to find out today that this is not going to be patched. I think they have ordered 15 floating licences here and I reckon the shit is gonna hit the wall when they realise this stuff is fundamentally broken. cheers GrahamO Back to top Pete Fraser Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: bdsproj2mak Have you added an entry to qc.codegear.com? Please do so then the sysops can get it promoted and it may get fixed. You need to include an example project that shows the bug and make sure it is reproducable *every* time. That will increase it's chances of getting fixed. HTH Pete "grahamo" <g (AT) blah (DOT) com> wrote in message news:464969a6$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Hi, The bdsproj2mak utility is broken in the codegear version of BDS 2006. I have contacted support and its not going to be fixed/patched anytime soon. This puts the use of the IDE out of our reach, we absolutley must be able to build using make and .mak files. Without this utility we definitely switch to microsoft visual studio... its seems years ahead in terms of reliability and usability. My question is this. has anybody got a working version of bdsproj2mak. It seems bizarre that we are the only users to absolutely use this functionality. does anybody else out there have the same issues and if yes, how do they workaround the bug. It's a pretty major issue and I reckon we're not the only ones out there to require it. Sigh. All this migration work to BDS and to find out today that this is not going to be patched. I think they have ordered 15 floating licences here and I reckon the shit is gonna hit the wall when they realise this stuff is fundamentally broken. cheers GrahamO Back to top grahamo Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: bdsproj2mak hi, thanks Pete. I think its too late. I think they are contacting the purchasing department to cancel the order as I speak.... I can't believe they ship with those kinds of defects :( grahamo "Pete Fraser" <pete.nospam.fraser.nospam (AT) frasersoft (DOT) nospam.net> wrote: Quote: Have you added an entry to qc.codegear.com? Please do so then the sysops can get it promoted and it may get fixed. You need to include an example project that shows the bug and make sure it is reproducable *every* time. That will increase it's chances of getting fixed. HTH Pete "grahamo" <g (AT) blah (DOT) com> wrote in message news:464969a6$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Hi, The bdsproj2mak utility is broken in the codegear version of BDS 2006. I have contacted support and its not going to be fixed/patched anytime soon. This puts the use of the IDE out of our reach, we absolutley must be able to build using make and .mak files. Without this utility we definitely switch to microsoft visual studio... its seems years ahead in terms of reliability and usability. My question is this. has anybody got a working version of bdsproj2mak. It seems bizarre that we are the only users to absolutely use this functionality. does anybody else out there have the same issues and if yes, how do they workaround the bug. It's a pretty major issue and I reckon we're not the only ones out there to require it. Sigh. All this migration work to BDS and to find out today that this is not going to be patched. I think they have ordered 15 floating licences here and I reckon the shit is gonna hit the wall when they realise this stuff is fundamentally broken. cheers GrahamO Back to top David Perkins Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: bdsproj2mak Quote: My question is this. has anybody got a working version of bdsproj2mak. It seems bizarre that we are the only users to absolutely use this functionality. does anybody else out there have the same issues and if yes, how do they workaround the bug. It's a pretty major issue and I reckon we're not the only ones out there to require it. I use it OK in Finalbuilder to automate my builds. What problems are you seeing? Back to top grahamo Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: bdsproj2mak Whats Final Builder? Is it another version of the IDE? We basically see make -f <projectName.mak> failing with all sorts of errors due to missing include paths and preprocessor defines missing. From googling, I get the impression it works for lightweight development but once things get anyway heavy in terms of project size, it spews. :( G David Perkins <please@no-spam.com> wrote: Quote: My question is this. has anybody got a working version of bdsproj2mak. It seems bizarre that we are the only users to absolutely use this functionality. does anybody else out there have the same issues and if yes, how do they workaround the bug. It's a pretty major issue and I reckon we're not the only ones out there to require it. I use it OK in Finalbuilder to automate my builds. What problems are you seeing? Back to top Pete Fraser Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: bdsproj2mak Final builder is an application to make your application. I believe it takes a project file and converts it to a make file and you can then add all your release commands to it so that pressing one button (or presumably runnning from a command file) can build everything that you need for a release. Note: it uses bdsproj2mak to convert the project file. You may well be hitting a 'corner case' which has bugs, which is why I suggested adding a QC entry (qc.codegear.com) and including a project that shows the problem. Reporting a problem here is not the correct way to report problems. QC is. Rgds Pete "grahamo" <g (AT) blah (DOT) com> wrote in message news:464990bf$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Whats Final Builder? Is it another version of the IDE? We basically see make -f <projectName.mak> failing with all sorts of errors due to missing include paths and preprocessor defines missing. From googling, I get the impression it works for lightweight development but once things get anyway heavy in terms of project size, it spews. David Perkins <please@no-spam.com> wrote: My question is this. has anybody got a working version of bdsproj2mak. It seems bizarre that we are the only users to absolutely use this functionality. does anybody else out there have the same issues and if yes, how do they workaround the bug. It's a pretty major issue and I reckon we're not the only ones out there to require it. I use it OK in Finalbuilder to automate my builds. What problems are you seeing? Back to top vavan Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: bdsproj2mak On 15 May 2007 03:51:43 -0700, "grahamo" <g (AT) blah (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: We basically see make -f <projectName.mak> failing with all sorts of errors due to missing include paths and preprocessor defines missing. From googling, I get the impression it works for lightweight development but once things get anyway heavy in terms of project size, it spews. try to use bcc32pch addon which has the ability to generate makefiles. I also had all sort of problems with native bdsproj2mak and bcc32pch did the trick for me -- Vladimir Ulchenko aka vavan Back to top Jonathan Benedicto Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: bdsproj2mak grahamo wrote: Quote: My question is this. has anybody got a working version of bdsproj2mak. Try Makefiles For BDS (http://www.jomitech.com/makefilesforbds.php) HTH Jon Back to top Dennis Jones Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: bdsproj2mak "grahamo" <g (AT) blah (DOT) com> wrote in message news:464990bf$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Whats Final Builder? Is it another version of the IDE? We basically see make -f <projectName.mak> failing with all sorts of errors due to missing include paths and preprocessor defines missing. From googling, I get the impression it works for lightweight development but once things get anyway heavy in terms of project size, it spews. Can you be more specific? I use it for many large projects successfully (well, sort of -- read on). There is a well-known problem in the IDE (well-known to me anyway -- Borland seems to pretend it isn't a problem) that can cause *all* project-to-make tools to fail: the IDE implicitly includes header paths to installed component packages (whether you need them or not), thereby causing unnecessary paths to be included in IDE builds (very annoying) and preventing project-to-make tools from knowing about necessary paths in command-line builds (extremely annoying, and downright wrong). If the missing include paths happen to be for packages you have installed in the IDE, you can fix this particular problem by making sure your project options explicitly refer to those include paths that your project requires. This will allow any project-to-make tool to work correctly with regard to "missing" include paths (assuming they are component package headers). There are also a few problems with bdsproj2mak, but most (if not all) of them can be worked around. I have a command-line utility that corrects the bugs in makefiles generated by bpr2mak and bdsproj2mak. You can get it here: http://www.grassvalleysoftware.com/FixMake.zip bcc32pch *might* work, but (I believe) it requres you to generate the makefile from the IDE, which is inconvenient if you must have the ability to generate the makefile on the fly in an automated build system. Although I own a copy of makefiles4bds, I do not use it to generate makefiles in my automated build system (I manage fine with just bdsproj2mak and my fixmake utility). However, one thing I can tell you for sure is that if you do use makefiles4bds, Jonathan will fix any problems you encounter, and he will fix them so fast it will make your head spin. - Dennis Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (IDE) All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.