BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Dave A. Law Guest Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" In case you missed the notice inthe Delphi.Non-Technical group see this news release: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070514/20070514005456.html?.v=1 Here are the features that the article says we can expect: a.. Seamless support for Microsoft Windows Vista Aero, Vista Desktop and Vista APIs a.. Increased ANSI C++ conformance and compatibility including Boost and Dinkumware library support a.. New C++ build flexibility and custom configurations powered by the Microsoft MSBuild engine a.. Up to 5 times in-IDE build performance improvements over prior versions a.. UML C++ source code visualization a.. Integrated C++ unit testing a.. New DBX 4 RAD data access with support for the latest versions of popular RDBMs including CodeGear InterBase®, Microsoft SQL Server, MySQL®, Oracle®, IBM® DB2, and Sybase® a.. C++ IDE enhancements including virtual folders and enhanced C++ structure pane a.. New INDY 10 Internet Protocol component suite Dave A. Law Software Developer Cameron Back to top John Jacobson Guest Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" "Dave A. Law" <lawda (AT) nuflotech (DOT) com> wrote in message news:46487d9e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: In case you missed the notice inthe Delphi.Non-Technical group see this news release: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070514/20070514005456.html?.v=1 The big question for me is if it will finally be possible to compile all the third-party open-source stuff (like libpar) into obj's that Delphi can directly link in? Otherwise, I'm not sure I have much further use for C++ Builder, personally. Back to top Alex Bakaev [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" John Jacobson wrote: Quote: The big question for me is if it will finally be possible to compile all the third-party open-source stuff (like libpar) into obj's that Delphi can directly link in? Otherwise, I'm not sure I have much further use for C++ Builder, personally. Is libpar a C or C++ library? If C, then it should be possible to use it in Delphi today... Back to top Sebastian Ledesma [Solidy Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" Cool! It's the 'feature matrix' available? Saludos Sebastian "Dave A. Law" <lawda (AT) nuflotech (DOT) com> escribió en el mensaje news:46487d9e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: In case you missed the notice inthe Delphi.Non-Technical group see this news release: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070514/20070514005456.html?.v=1 Dave A. Law Software Developer Cameron Back to top Gord Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" Right on. Looking forward to it. Early June is almost here. I agree with Sebastion, it would be nice to see a feature matrix. David, when can we expect to see more details? I wonder how CG will sell it now that Delphi 2007 for WIn32 is already released? This has made things confusing IMO. I thought when I upgraded to BDS2006 that successive upgrades would include each personality. Back to top David Dean [CodeGear] Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" In article <4648e3ef$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "Gord" <dont (AT) spam (DOT) me> wrote: Quote: David, when can we expect to see more details? I don't know for sure, I'll ask. Was the Delphi 2007 Feature Matrix made available before it shipped? -- -David Dean CodeGear C++ QA Engineer <http://blogs.codegear.com/ddean/> Back to top Gord Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" Quote: I don't know for sure, I'll ask. Thanks. Quote: Was the Delphi 2007 Feature Matrix made available before it shipped? I don't know. Building anticipation is always a good thing I think though, and having some details would do that to some degree. Back to top David Dean [CodeGear] Guest Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" In article <46494727$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "Gord" <dont (AT) spam (DOT) me> wrote: Quote: I don't know for sure, I'll ask. Thanks. Yes, a feature matrix should be made available in the near future. I'll try to post as soon as I learn the URL. -- -David Dean CodeGear C++ QA Engineer <http://blogs.codegear.com/ddean/> Back to top Colin B Maharaj Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" Got a code gear link..... nothing much to say though..... http://www.codegear.com/article/36464/ David Dean [CodeGear] wrote: Quote: In article <46494727$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "Gord" <dont (AT) spam (DOT) me wrote: I don't know for sure, I'll ask. Thanks. Yes, a feature matrix should be made available in the near future. I'll try to post as soon as I learn the URL. Back to top Lester Caine Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" David Dean [CodeGear] wrote: Quote: In article <46494727$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "Gord" <dont (AT) spam (DOT) me wrote: I don't know for sure, I'll ask. Thanks. Yes, a feature matrix should be made available in the near future. I'll try to post as soon as I learn the URL. I do wonder if there is any point if we are not interested in Vista. We do need a commercially viable alternative to a operating system that is solely designed for multimedia and which has no place in offices Or do your bosses allow watching videos and playing games all day :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk MEDW - http://home.lsces.co.uk/ModelEngineersDigitalWorkshop/ Firebird Foundation Inc. - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php Back to top Duane Hebert Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" Quote: I do wonder if there is any point if we are not interested in Vista. We do need a commercially viable alternative to a operating system that is solely designed for multimedia and which has no place in offices Or do your bosses allow watching videos and playing games all day I don't really have any interest in supporting vista yet but these would probably interest me: -Increased ANSI C++ conformance and compatibility including Boost and Dinkumware library support -New C++ build flexibility and custom configurations powered by the Microsoft MSBuild engine -Up to 5 times in-IDE build performance improvements over prior versions -UML C++ source code visualization -Integrated C++ unit testing This one would probably interest me more if it listed PostGres: -New DBX 4 RAD data access with support for the latest versions of popular RDBMs including CodeGear InterBase®, Microsoft SQL Server, MySQL®, Oracle®, IBM® DB2, and Sybase® This may interest me if I knew what "virtual folders" were <g> -C++ IDE enhancements including virtual folders and enhanced C++ structure pane Back to top vavan Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:09:58 -0400, "Duane Hebert" <spoo (AT) flarn (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: -Increased ANSI C++ conformance and compatibility including Boost and Dinkumware library support I don't know how they evaluate "increase" but according to boost regression summary (Alisdair reported 5.9-presale just this morning) there are still lots of problems with bcc conformance and I don't quite understand how they're going to sell such "increased" conformance :( -- Vladimir Ulchenko aka vavan Back to top Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB] Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" Duane Hebert wrote: Quote: This one would probably interest me more if it listed PostGres: -New DBX 4 RAD data access with support for the latest versions of popular RDBMs including CodeGear InterBase®, Microsoft SQL Server, MySQL®, Oracle®, IBM® DB2, and Sybase® Is Postgres supported by the older Borland database driver technologies? I think DBX 4 includes some bridge technology that allows compatibility with old drivers, so maybe they just didn't think Postgres needed to be listed. I don't read that as being an exhaustive list of every supported database technology. Quote: This may interest me if I knew what "virtual folders" were <g -C++ IDE enhancements including virtual folders and enhanced C++ structure pane I think it's an organizational tool for your project where you can create a "folder" in your project that doesn't map to any actual disk directory. It's not unlike a folder in your browser's bookmark manager. It doesn't map to an actual file structure on your computer's hard drive. It's just a conceptual structure that helps you organize. -- Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB] Back to top Sebastian Ledesma [Solidy Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" Hi: <speculation> I guess it's something like 'Source Pools' that are available in BC5.0x. I heard (to Allen Bauer?) talking about something like this to be incorporated into the BCB2007 </speculation> Saludos Sebastian "Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB]" <spam (AT) gillmerderge (DOT) com> escribió en el mensaje news:464b0fea$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Duane Hebert wrote: This may interest me if I knew what "virtual folders" were <g -C++ IDE enhancements including virtual folders and enhanced C++ structure pane I think it's an organizational tool for your project where you can create a "folder" in your project that doesn't map to any actual disk directory. It's not unlike a folder in your browser's bookmark manager. It doesn't map to an actual file structure on your computer's hard drive. It's just a conceptual structure that helps you organize. -- Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB] Back to top Duane Hebert Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: C++ Builder 2007 - Coming "Early June" "vavan" <VavanRemove (AT) ThisSantel (DOT) ru> wrote in message news:7m2m43h0ipsl17vhg2jn2bhgabb2mt0mfa (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Quote: On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:09:58 -0400, "Duane Hebert" <spoo (AT) flarn (DOT) com wrote: -Increased ANSI C++ conformance and compatibility including Boost and Dinkumware library support I don't know how they evaluate "increase" but according to boost regression summary (Alisdair reported 5.9-presale just this morning) there are still lots of problems with bcc conformance and I don't quite understand how they're going to sell such "increased" conformance I wasn't sure how to interpret Dinkumware support either since it's currently shipped with BDS. Do they mean a newer version with iterator debugging for example? 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