BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Steve Harp Guest Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:01 pm    Post subject: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Hi All, I haven't upgraded to D8 because of the lack of Win32 support. I doubt that I'm alone but .Net doesn't light my fire. The vast majority of my clients are running NT 4 and don't have the .Net framework installed. With some of these clients, it's unbelievable what I have to go through to get permission to install something new. Their security concerns border on the ridiculous. In order to interest me in D9, Borland is going to have to give me a compelling reason by improved support for Win32, better stability, or something else that gets my motor cranked. Does anyone have any information about Win32 enchantments in D9? Thanks, Steve Back to top Michael Swindell (Borland Guest Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? If you're doing Win32 dev or .NET dev there will be 101+ reasons to upgrade when Diamondback is released. Not demoware or fluffy stuff, but real day-in-day-out super useful once-you-try-it-you-can't-live-without-it kind of features. We've been dropping hints and peeks here and there, but it's at Borcon next month where you can learn about Diamondback as a whole and preview it. -m Quote: In order to interest me in D9, Borland is going to have to give me a compelling reason by improved support for Win32, better stability, or something else that gets my motor cranked. Back to top Steve Harp Guest Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Sounds great. If what you say is true, I'll be on your upgrade list as soon as you release it. Quote: If you're doing Win32 dev or .NET dev there will be 101+ reasons to upgrade when Diamondback is released. Not demoware or fluffy stuff, but real day-in-day-out super useful once-you-try-it-you-can't-live-without-it kind of features. We've been dropping hints and peeks here and there, but it's at Borcon next month where you can learn about Diamondback as a whole and preview it. -m In order to interest me in D9, Borland is going to have to give me a compelling reason by improved support for Win32, better stability, or something else that gets my motor cranked. Back to top Peter Herijgers Guest Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Me too. Peter. "Steve Harp" <kilroy (AT) harpservices (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Sounds great. If what you say is true, I'll be on your upgrade list as soon as you release it. If you're doing Win32 dev or .NET dev there will be 101+ reasons to upgrade when Diamondback is released. Not demoware or fluffy stuff, but real day-in-day-out super useful once-you-try-it-you-can't-live-without-it kind of features. We've been dropping hints and peeks here and there, but it's at Borcon next month where you can learn about Diamondback as a whole and preview it. -m In order to interest me in D9, Borland is going to have to give me a compelling reason by improved support for Win32, better stability, or something else that gets my motor cranked. Back to top Msangali Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? And what about Borcon Brazil? I will be there, next week, and it will be frustrating if Borland don't show anything of DiamondBack at there. Regards, MARCO Back to top Michael Swindell (Borland Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? We'd like to, but Sept will really be the earliest that we'll be ready to start demoing. Everything they will be showing about Delphi 8 will be very relevant. -m "Msangali" <msangali@nospam> wrote Quote: And what about Borcon Brazil? I will be there, next week, and it will be frustrating if Borland don't show anything of DiamondBack at there. Regards, MARCO Back to top Kevin Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Michael Swindell (Borland) wrote: Quote: If you're doing Win32 dev or .NET dev there will be 101+ reasons to upgrade when Diamondback is released. Not demoware or fluffy stuff, but real day-in-day-out super useful once-you-try-it-you-can't-live-without-it kind of features. We've been dropping hints and peeks here and there, but it's at Borcon next month where you can learn about Diamondback as a whole and preview it. -m Sounds like you can already count on my upgrade $. What I'm expecting from Delphi 9 is a smoothed-off good quality .NET development tool and some cool Win32 enhancements as well. Then I'll be happy. I can't wait for it to be released... do you have a release date yet or will that be announced at Borcon? Can we expect it this year or is there no chance it'll ship by the end of the year? Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Michael Swindell (Borland Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Quote: Sounds like you can already count on my upgrade $. What I'm expecting from Delphi 9 is a smoothed-off good quality .NET development tool and some cool Win32 enhancements as well. Then I'll be happy. I think you'll be pleased. Quote: can't wait for it to be released... do you have a release date yet or will that be announced at Borcon? Can we expect it this year or is there no chance it'll ship by the end of the year? We won't be announcing dates at Borcon, still too early. At Borcon we'll be previewing the Diamondback features, but you should be able to see everything that will be in the final release. We aim to have a great quality release and it's looking really nice. Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Steve Harp wrote: Quote: I haven't upgraded to D8 because of the lack of Win32 support. I doubt that I'm alone but .Net doesn't light my fire. A lot of people are only interested in Win32 right now. It's certainly what pays my bills.... Quote: Does anyone have any information about Win32 enchantments in D9? Have you seen this? http://homepages.borland.com/dthorpe/blog/delphi/2004_08_01_archive.php That's only one feature, but it's a useful addition to Win32. -Craig -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz How to ask questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Back to top Michael Swindell (Borland Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Quote: Don't forget those of us that buy the Pro versions of Delphi!!! You'll want to look at the Arch and Ent editions for sure, but the Pro will not disappoint! Back to top Martijn Tonies Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Quote: Don't forget those of us that buy the Pro versions of Delphi!!! You'll want to look at the Arch and Ent editions for sure, but the Pro will not disappoint! Yeah, Arch and Ent are good... but also expensive for a small shop. -- With regards, Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL & MS SQL Server. Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com Back to top David Smith Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Captain Jake wrote: Quote: Have you seen this? http://homepages.borland.com/dthorpe/blog/delphi/2004_08_01_archive.php That's only one feature, but it's a useful addition to Win32. I'd like to see some teasers from Borland regarding IDE features, to be honest. Well, the refactoring support has been "leaked" and I see no reason why it would be only a NET feature. And if it's anything like the refactoring in e.g. JBuilder, then I'm sold. (read: I have a lot of old, large projects to maintain.) David Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Captain Jake wrote: Quote: I'd like to see some teasers from Borland regarding IDE features True, that would be good. But with the number of folks that have been lamenting around here that the Win32 compiler is dead, I think it's also good that Danny can blog to dispel this FUD. -- Cheers, David Clegg dclegg_at_ebetonline_dot_com Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "You couldn't fool me on the foolingest day of the year with an electrified fooling machine." - Homer Simpson Back to top Erwien Saputra Guest Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Michael Swindell (Borland) wrote: Quote: You'll want to look at the Arch and Ent editions for sure, but the Pro will not disappoint! As a Pro user, I am glad to read that. Wien. Back to top Martijn Tonies Guest Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Improvements in Win32 support in D9? Quote: http://homepages.borland.com/dthorpe/blog/delphi/2004_08_01_archive.php That's only one feature, but it's a useful addition to Win32. I'd like to see some teasers from Borland regarding IDE features, to be honest. Well, the refactoring support has been "leaked" and I see no reason why it would be only a NET feature. And if it's anything like the refactoring in e.g. JBuilder, then I'm sold. (read: I have a lot of old, large projects to maintain.) Like what? Like what? <replace sloppy code by new design pattern framework> with a click or two? :-) -- With regards, Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL & MS SQL Server. 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