BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Internet Winsock View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 2:04 am    Post subject: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Hello, i use since 1 year TIdHTTPServer in many Applications. With Indy9 it run fast and stable and on my Testside i have access time between 1-2ms. With Indy10 i have temporary access time from 700-900ms! My Request/min go from 18000 down to 1200! --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://trillian.wegner24.de/cabriometer Back to top Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Are there any changes, that i not see? Must i add any Handler, that i not know? Why it was so slow? Any help? I see that every 10-20 request has a big timeout! --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://www.wegner24.de "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:41956bd2 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Hello, i use since 1 year TIdHTTPServer in many Applications. With Indy9 it run fast and stable and on my Testside i have access time between 1-2ms. With Indy10 i have temporary access time from 700-900ms! My Request/min go from 18000 down to 1200! --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://trillian.wegner24.de/cabriometer Back to top Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Does no interest in this problem exist? From this side one can see beautiful, what I mean: http://www.wegner24.de/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=print&ceid=11 This server runs with Indy 10 and before with Indy 9 without problems. --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://www.wegner24.de "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:41956bd2 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Hello, i use since 1 year TIdHTTPServer in many Applications. With Indy9 it run fast and stable and on my Testside i have access time between 1-2ms. With Indy10 i have temporary access time from 700-900ms! My Request/min go from 18000 down to 1200! --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://trillian.wegner24.de/cabriometer Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> wrote Quote: Are there any changes, that i not see? Yes. Indy's entire internal architecture was changed in Indy 10. Quote: Must i add any Handler, that i not know? No. Quote: Why it was so slow? My guess would be all the extra overhead involved thanks to the DotNET support. Streams have to be wrapped, so there is redirection overhead there. Raw bytes have to be wrapped into byte arrays, so there is allocation and copying overhead there. Gambit Back to top Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow But the problem is, Indy 10 was not general slower then Indy9. It was a temporary problem on x-th request. I think this is a real bug. Lock at my testsite. Ok, you are not local, but i hope you can see the stops during load the 350 test icons. --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://www.wegner24.de "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam (AT) no (DOT) spam.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:419ce86a$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> wrote in message news:4197b4f0$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Are there any changes, that i not see? Yes. Indy's entire internal architecture was changed in Indy 10. Must i add any Handler, that i not know? No. Why it was so slow? My guess would be all the extra overhead involved thanks to the DotNET support. Streams have to be wrapped, so there is redirection overhead there. Raw bytes have to be wrapped into byte arrays, so there is allocation and copying overhead there. Gambit Back to top Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu Guest Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> wrote in news:41956bd2 @newsgroups.borland.com: Quote: Hello, i use since 1 year TIdHTTPServer in many Applications. With Indy9 it run fast and stable and on my Testside i have access time between 1-2ms. With Indy10 i have temporary access time from 700-900ms! My Request/min go from 18000 down to 1200! Check all of your code closely. We have many production servers running Indy 10 and have not seen such behavioru. -- Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/ "Programming is an art form that fights back" Need extra help with an Indy problem? http://www.atozed.com/indy/experts/ Back to top Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu Guest Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam (AT) no (DOT) spam.com> wrote in news:419ce86a$1 @newsgroups.borland.com: Quote: My guess would be all the extra overhead involved thanks to the DotNET support. Streams have to be wrapped, so there is redirection overhead there. Raw bytes have to be wrapped into byte arrays, so there is allocation and copying overhead there. Its not that. The overhead is pretty minimal, esp given teh numbers he's posting. -- Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/ "Programming is an art form that fights back" Qualified help FAST with Indy Experts Support from the experts themselves: http://www.atozed.com/indy/experts/support.iwp Back to top Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow I will check this. I have the problem since Indy 10 but with a minimal Testserver the problems are not exists. --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://www.wegner24.de "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <cpub (AT) hower (DOT) org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Xns95AD587A62FFAcpub (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1... Quote: "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> wrote in news:41956bd2 @newsgroups.borland.com: Hello, i use since 1 year TIdHTTPServer in many Applications. With Indy9 it run fast and stable and on my Testside i have access time between 1-2ms. With Indy10 i have temporary access time from 700-900ms! My Request/min go from 18000 down to 1200! Check all of your code closely. We have many production servers running Indy 10 and have not seen such behavioru. -- Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/ "Programming is an art form that fights back" Need extra help with an Indy problem? http://www.atozed.com/indy/experts/ Back to top Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Ok, i found it. Note: never use nxReplacementMemoryManager with Indy 10! --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://www.wegner24.de "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <cpub (AT) hower (DOT) org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Xns95AD587A62FFAcpub (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1... Quote: "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> wrote in news:41956bd2 @newsgroups.borland.com: Hello, i use since 1 year TIdHTTPServer in many Applications. With Indy9 it run fast and stable and on my Testside i have access time between 1-2ms. With Indy10 i have temporary access time from 700-900ms! My Request/min go from 18000 down to 1200! Check all of your code closely. We have many production servers running Indy 10 and have not seen such behavioru. -- Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/ "Programming is an art form that fights back" Need extra help with an Indy problem? http://www.atozed.com/indy/experts/ Back to top Don Siders Guest Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Quote: Ok, i found it. Note: never use nxReplacementMemoryManager with Indy 10! And why exactly do you say that? Back to top Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow This has the effect, that i describe. Very slow Server. I delete the unit in uses and all run fine and very fast, without any delays and so on. --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://www.wegner24.de "Don Siders" <mudshark (AT) rancidbud (DOT) org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:41a8164a$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Ok, i found it. Note: never use nxReplacementMemoryManager with Indy 10! And why exactly do you say that? Back to top Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Look at this: with nxReplacementMemoryManager, for example (only a short part): Page Summary Page Hits TTFB Avg TTLB Avg Auth Query ================================================================================ GET /index.htm 19 261.95 278.95 No No GET /index-Dateien/8.gif 19 825.16 825.95 No No GET /index-Dateien/9.gif 19 294.00 294.89 No No GET /index-Dateien/16.gif 19 5.63 7.16 No No GET /index-Dateien/17.gif 19 6.11 7.26 No No GET /index-Dateien/18.gif 19 5.74 6.79 No No GET /index-Dateien/19.gif 19 5.42 6.58 No No GET /index-Dateien/25.gif 18 6.11 7.56 No No GET /index-Dateien/26.gif 18 273.94 275.17 No No GET /index-Dateien/27.gif 18 6.00 7.17 No No GET /index-Dateien/28.gif 18 313.78 314.89 No No GET /index-Dateien/29.gif 18 6.72 7.72 No No GET /index-Dateien/30.gif 18 8.83 10.11 No No GET /index-Dateien/31.gif 18 5.83 6.94 No No GET /index-Dateien/32.gif 18 8.06 9.22 No No GET /index-Dateien/33.gif 18 5.17 6.50 No No GET /index-Dateien/44.gif 18 4.94 6.22 No No GET /index-Dateien/2.gif 18 5.28 6.33 No No GET /index-Dateien/0.gif 18 7.11 8.17 No No GET /index-Dateien/45.gif 18 6.17 7.39 No No GET /index-Dateien/46.gif 18 593.56 594.28 No No GET /index-Dateien/47.gif 18 6.44 7.33 No No without nxReplacementMemoryManager: Page Summary Page Hits TTFB Avg TTLB Avg Auth Query ================================================================================ GET /index-Dateien/40(1).gif 18 5.83 6.72 No No GET /index-Dateien/33(1).gif 18 6.06 7.33 No No GET /index-Dateien/35(1).gif 18 5.56 6.94 No No GET /index-Dateien/36(1).gif 18 5.67 7.28 No No GET /index-Dateien/34(1).gif 18 5.61 6.72 No No GET /index-Dateien/37(1).gif 18 5.50 6.67 No No GET /index-Dateien/32(1).gif 18 5.44 6.72 No No GET /index-Dateien/39(1).gif 18 7.61 8.67 No No GET /index-Dateien/26(1).gif 18 5.78 7.17 No No GET /index-Dateien/2.gif 18 5.72 6.94 No No GET /index-Dateien/41(1).gif 18 5.89 6.78 No No GET /index-Dateien/42(1).gif 18 5.72 7.06 No No GET /index-Dateien/38(1).gif 18 6.17 7.78 No No GET /index-Dateien/22(1).gif 18 6.39 7.39 No No GET /index-Dateien/19(2).gif 18 7.33 8.39 No No I append my Testserver with content. --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://www.wegner24.de "Don Siders" <mudshark (AT) rancidbud (DOT) org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:41a8164a$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Ok, i found it. Note: never use nxReplacementMemoryManager with Indy 10! And why exactly do you say that? Back to top Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu Guest Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> wrote in news:41a8e79e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: with nxReplacementMemoryManager, for example (only a short part): nx is the nexus one? Have you reported this to them? Normally the Nexus MM increases throughput quite a bit. -- Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/ "Programming is an art form that fights back" Want to keep up to date with Indy? Join Indy News - it free! http://www.atozed.com/indy/news/ Back to top Thomas Wegner Guest Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Quote: nx is the nexus one? Have you reported this to them? No, i not reported that. The problem will be, that they say "this is Indy problem", and so on ...! With Indy 9 it work fine! Quote: Normally the Nexus MM increases throughput quite a bit. Yes, that why it was in my Server. No it run fine without it. --------------------------------------------- Thomas Wegner Cabrio Meter - The Weather Plugin for Trillian http://www.wegner24.de "Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu" <cpub (AT) hower (DOT) org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Xns95AF9C9199E87cpub (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1... Quote: "Thomas Wegner" <tomaten (AT) t-online (DOT) de> wrote in news:41a8e79e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: with nxReplacementMemoryManager, for example (only a short part): nx is the nexus one? Have you reported this to them? Normally the Nexus MM increases throughput quite a bit. -- Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/ "Programming is an art form that fights back" Want to keep up to date with Indy? Join Indy News - it free! http://www.atozed.com/indy/news/ Back to top Hannes Danzl[NDD] Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Indy 10 HTTPServer very slow Quote: No, i not reported that. The problem will be, that they say "this is Indy problem", and so on ...! With Indy 9 it work fine! Thomas, I don't want to flame here, but don't you think it's a bit unfair to say "never use this" in a public forum AND then telling people that you've not reported it AND that we will answer "it's not our fault" anyways. you're welcome to visit our support forums or chat server and find out on your own that our support is very good, some people say it's second to none. anyways, for the record: if someone finds oddities with our products or find they don't perform to their expectations please give us a chance to look at it. As with every software there might be bugs, there might be ways to use it that we've not anticipated, there might be situations where it simply is not up to it's promises. But we then would like to know if possible so that we can make it work. We've the usual support options and you can chat to all our developers directly too. 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