BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message John Herbster Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? (Thanks for your consideration -- JohnH) Back to top Charles Appel Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net> wrote Quote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? Sounds like a good idea. -- Charles Appel "A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future." Robert Anson Heinlein Back to top Mark Vaughan Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:41bd85a0 @newsgroups.borland.com: Quote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? yes, definitely! -- Mark Vaughan ___________ Visit the Numerical Methods in Pascal web page at http://www-rab.larc.nasa.gov/nmp/fNMPhome.htm Back to top John Herbster Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? Quote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? Read here for some previous discussion on the subject: [url]http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=algorithms+delphi&as_epq=&as_oq=group+forum&as_eq=FAQ&as_ugroup=borland.*[/url] Back to top Lucian.R Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? It seems to me a little melodramatic. Isn't it? May be we talk about a extension of the actual algorithms, or may be about a future version of them...or may be I'm wrong, I believe we're still depending on them. Rgds, Lucian R. "Charles Appel" <charlesappel (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:41bd85a0 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? Sounds like a good idea. -- Charles Appel "A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future." Robert Anson Heinlein Back to top Lucian.R Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? ops..sorry, I have understood very wrong the question sorry guys. Next time I'll pay more attention. Sorry. Rgds, Lucian R "Lucian.R" <rlucian (AT) easynet (DOT) ro> wrote Quote: It seems to me a little melodramatic. Isn't it? May be we talk about a extension of the actual algorithms, or may be about a future version of them...or may be I'm wrong, I believe we're still depending on them. Rgds, Lucian R. "Charles Appel" <charlesappel (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote in message news:41bd892b (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:41bd85a0 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? Sounds like a good idea. -- Charles Appel "A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future." Robert Anson Heinlein Back to top Alisdair Meredith [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? John Herbster wrote: Quote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? <takes off TeamB hat> Creating new groups is never as easy as it seems, for all sorts of reasons, so I'm definitely *not* wading in with a TeamB hat here <g> But I'm going to answer your question with another: Why a *Delphi* algorithms group? What is so special about the algorithms you are thinking of that they might only be implemented in Delphi? At their heart, algorithms are an expression of a way of finding a result, language issues are an implementation detail. While I am not sure a Delphi algorithms group would generate enough traffic, I would be very interested in a general group for algorithms, where language specific implementation details were not off topic, but also not the main traffic in the group either. Of course the same could be said for OO, patterns, GUIs, ... This is one (of many) reason creating new groups is hard, balancing their interest to get sufficient-but-not-overwhelming traffic. AlisdairM <dons TeamB hat again> Back to top Charles Appel Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? "Alisdair Meredith [TeamB]" <alisdair.NO.SPAM.PLEASE.meredith (AT) uk (DOT) renaultf1.com> wrote Quote: John Herbster wrote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? takes off TeamB hat Creating new groups is never as easy as it seems, for all sorts of reasons, so I'm definitely *not* wading in with a TeamB hat here But I'm going to answer your question with another: Why a *Delphi* algorithms group? What is so special about the algorithms you are thinking of that they might only be implemented in Delphi? The problem is that it is often hard to find code in Delphi - where it is easy to find the same algorithm in C/C++ or BASIC. Quote: At their heart, algorithms are an expression of a way of finding a result, language issues are an implementation detail. True, but that detail can be quite a problem. Translating C/C++ to Delphi is not always the easiest of tasks - especially if you have never studied C or haven't used it in ten years or more. Translating BASIC is generally easier, but this still requires that you have at least a working knowledge of BASIC. Quote: While I am not sure a Delphi algorithms group would generate enough traffic, I would be very interested in a general group for algorithms, where language specific implementation details were not off topic, but also not the main traffic in the group either. Perhaps. But I'd still rather have the Delphi group. -- Charles Appel "A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future." Robert Anson Heinlein Back to top Charles Appel Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? "Ben Hochstrasser" <bhoc@tiscali123^H^H^H.ch> wrote Quote: John Herbster wrote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? Basically it's a good idea. OTOH if the posts expire too fast it will be of limited use. True. That could be a problem. A possible solution would be to grant blanket permission to post the algorithms from the group to personal Delphi web sites. Periodically, a list of sites could be posted in the group. -- Charles Appel "A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future." Robert Anson Heinlein Back to top Martin James Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? A couple weeks ago, I was looking for Btree algorithm examples. The ones I found were C-based, ie. actually written in C, or in C-style Pascal, ie p^, s^, q^, AKA unfollowable spag. Also, all the examples were based around records and pointers. Not a class or object in sight. Rgds, Martin Back to top Marcus F. Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net> wrote Quote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? What kind? Graphics? WinAPI related? Database? OO? General programming?... Wait a second, aren't there newsgroups for these already? Back to top John Jacobson Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? "John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net> wrote Quote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!1 Back to top Rene Tschaggelar Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? Ben Hochstrasser wrote: Quote: John Herbster wrote: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group, yet? Basically it's a good idea. OTOH if the posts expire too fast it will be of limited use. Same for a "Frequently addressed problems" group, eg with the infamous "how can I start another process and wait until it's finished" and other often- encountered problems. Ben, Time to start running a news tool such as Xananews to gather the news 365x24x7. No ? Lets see, I have 87k messages just from delphi.non-tech here. Xananews becomes a memory hog over the years then, as it wants to have something in RAM. Rene -- Ing.Buro R.Tschaggelar http://www.ibrtses.com Your newsgroups @ http://www.talkto.net Back to top Rene Tschaggelar Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? Martin James wrote: Quote: A couple weeks ago, I was looking for Btree algorithm examples. The ones I found were C-based, ie. actually written in C, or in C-style Pascal, ie p^, s^, q^, AKA unfollowable spag. Also, all the examples were based around records and pointers. Not a class or object in sight. You havent looked on my pages then. With records though, I believe. Rene -- Ing.Buro R.Tschaggelar http://www.ibrtses.com Your newsgroups @ http://www.talkto.net Back to top Peter Morris [Air Softwar Guest Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a Delphi algorithms group? Sounds like a good idea, but don't people tend to post those in the OO group anyway? 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