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Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey?
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Dennis Landi
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote



Isn't it time for a real survey?

1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?

Yes or No.

2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?

Now | 6 Mo.s | 12 Mo.s | 18 Mo.s


Assuming no cooperation from Borland, how should we best conduct such a
survey?

The floor is open.

-d


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Thorsten Engler [NexusDB]
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote



Quote:
1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?
Yes


Quote:
2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?
Now


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Thorsten Engler [NexusDB Architect]



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Alan Garny
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote



"Dennis Landi" <none[at]none.com> wrote

Quote:
Isn't it time for a real survey?

1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?

Yes.

Quote:
2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?

Now.

Quote:
Assuming no cooperation from Borland, how should we best conduct such a
survey?

Hmm... I want to believe we will never have to think of that...

Alan.



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German Gentile
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote

Dennis Landi wrote:
Quote:
Isn't it time for a real survey?

1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?


Yes.

Quote:

2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?


6 Mo.s

German Pablo Gentile
(From Argentina)

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Mark G. Zeringue
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote

Quote:
1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?

Yes.


Quote:
2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?

6 Mo.s


Mark

Custom Logic Design Inc
www.zclient.com




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Dennis Landi
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote


"Dennis Landi" <none[at]none.com> wrote

Quote:
Assuming no cooperation from Borland, how should we best conduct such a
survey?

The floor is open.

Hint: I am suggesting that this forum isn't the best place for the survey
because of its purportedly self-selecting nature...

-d



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JoeH
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote

1. Yes
2. As soon as Dell offers a 64bit laptop
3. Duh

JoeH


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Dennis Landi
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote


"Peter Sleuth" <nomail (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

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Asap. First 64-bit Opteron servers with more than 4 Gig of Ram are already
being tested at our company, running Windows Server 2003 for 64-bit beta,
waiting for apps with large inmemory-datasets filling several gigs of Ram.

Amen to that. I have a similar need.



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Peter Sleuth
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote


"Dennis Landi" <none[at]none.com> wrote

Quote:
1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?

Yes.

Quote:
2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?

Asap. First 64-bit Opteron servers with more than 4 Gig of Ram are already
being tested at our company, running Windows Server 2003 for 64-bit beta,
waiting for apps with large inmemory-datasets filling several gigs of Ram.

-Peter



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Robert Love
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote

Quote:
1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?
Yes or No.

Yes

Quote:
2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?

18 Mo.s or More

Robert Love

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Joe Bain
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote

Dennis Landi wrote:

Quote:
Isn't it time for a real survey?

1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?

Yes


Quote:
2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?

Now

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TObject
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote


"Dennis Landi" <none[at]none.com> wrote


Quote:
1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?


No. I am going with .NET



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Dennis Ortiz
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote


Quote:
1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?

Yes or No.

Yes

Quote:

2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?

Now | 6 Mo.s | 12 Mo.s | 18 Mo.s

after first service pack

Quote:
Assuming no cooperation from Borland, how should we best conduct such a
survey?

Surverys maybe is not the right way to do it, remember linux survey.
Maybe a solution is creating a non profit company ( salaries when money
comes are allowed but not company profit ) and creating a alliance with
borland to promote/create Borland solution and even help them with
testing/solutions, marketing and Delphi 64 bit version.

best regards,
Dennis Ortiz



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Brian Moelk
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote

Quote:
Assuming no cooperation from Borland, how should we best conduct such a
survey?

The floor is open.

Hint: I am suggesting that this forum isn't the best place for the survey
because of its purportedly self-selecting nature...

Not sure, perhaps you could try to get some Team-B support or get someone to
blog about it. The problem with this kind of survey is that it really isn't
"market research".

The main issue is that market research isn't an exact science. Linux
apparently looked good, but when it came time to signing the check, it
didn't pan out as expected. IMO, neither did Kylix but I digress. I
believe Borland has some options: execute better in a safe strategy (one
that market research will confirm) or take a calculated risk with a less
safe strategy (one that market research will not confirm).

Clearly a native 64-bit compiler is a riskier strategy as dotNET will get
Delphi to 64-bit, however the ultimate question is can Borland execute well
enough to overcome the MS juggernaut in dotNET?

I see risk as an opportunity, so my choice is a native 64-bit compiler but
stripped down for server apps; I think a linux version exclusively focused
for server application development would do well too but I don't think any
market research will agree with me.

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Brian Moelk
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http://www.brainendeavor.com



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Brian Moelk
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it time for a real 64-bit Delphi Survey? Reply with quote

Quote:
1) Would you buy a version of Delphi that would allow you to port and
compile your Win32 code to Win64 code?

Yes.

Quote:
2) If Yes, I how soon would you buy the 64-bit Delphi compiler?

Now | 6 Mo.s | 12 Mo.s | 18 Mo.s

Probably 6-8 months from now unless I got a good deal.

I do think it would help sell existing Delphi offerings regardless.

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Brian Moelk
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