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Tim Anderson
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 Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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See my blog post:
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=387
The obvious question: will Delphi code run in this new CLR implementation?
On the face of it, it seems to pose a similar problem to the Compact
Framework. So I'd speculate that it will, once DevCo work out how to remove
any unsupported dependencies.
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David Dean
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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In article <44252ddf$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>,
"Tim Anderson" <timjand (AT) nospam (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | See my blog post:
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=387
The obvious question: will Delphi code run in this new CLR implementation?
On the face of it, it seems to pose a similar problem to the Compact
Framework. So I'd speculate that it will, once DevCo work out how to remove
any unsupported dependencies.
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If MacOS is important enough for Microsoft to target it, then why
shouldn't Borland/DevCo?
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Doychin Bondzhev
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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Because writing something like 2MB plug-in for operating system that has
C/C++ compiler is much more easier then porting complete set of tools
for application development like Delphi.
If you have code that is already written as cross-platform in mind it is
much easier just to get it and recompile it for another platform.
In the case of .NET and the subset that the blog is talking about won't
be such a problem to port to an other operating system with decent C/C++
compiler.
After all the development environment you will use to target those
clients will still be Visual Studio on the top of Windows.
Doychin
David Dean wrote:
| Quote: | In article <44252ddf$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>,
"Tim Anderson" <timjand (AT) nospam (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote:
See my blog post:
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=387
The obvious question: will Delphi code run in this new CLR implementation?
On the face of it, it seems to pose a similar problem to the Compact
Framework. So I'd speculate that it will, once DevCo work out how to remove
any unsupported dependencies.
If MacOS is important enough for Microsoft to target it, then why
shouldn't Borland/DevCo?
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Daniel Rail
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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"David Dean" <ozchzhq02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:ozchzhq02-64F76E.10010825032006 (AT) frylock (DOT) local...
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If MacOS is important enough for Microsoft to target it, then why
shouldn't Borland/DevCo?
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Reading on Microsoft's website in some of the press releases about the new
Windows Presentation Foundation/Everywhere(WPF/E), it is clear that it is
not a full featured .Net Framework. It's only a strict subset of the full
featured Windows Presentation Foundation, with the server side still on the
Windows platform, and it's only intended for web development. And, they're
even talking about Javascript as the possible language for the code and not
C#.
Tim does describe it correctly that it's targeted torwards web development
to give the ability to have a rich graphical thinclient on multiple
platforms and browsers.
Remember, Microsoft is also looking at a leasing model for its Office
products without you having to have the applications (at least not fully)
installed on your computer. So, this could be the next level to be able to
market those products to a wider customer base, especially those that are
thinking of switching desktop OS.
And, WPF/E could be an extension of ASP.Net.
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Tim Anderson
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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"Daniel Rail" <daniel (AT) accra (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:44257f4d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
| Quote: | "David Dean" <ozchzhq02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:ozchzhq02-64F76E.10010825032006 (AT) frylock (DOT) local...
If MacOS is important enough for Microsoft to target it, then why
shouldn't Borland/DevCo?
Reading on Microsoft's website in some of the press releases about the new
Windows Presentation Foundation/Everywhere(WPF/E), it is clear that it is
not a full featured .Net Framework. It's only a strict subset of the full
featured Windows Presentation Foundation, with the server side still on
the Windows platform, and it's only intended for web development. And,
they're even talking about Javascript as the possible language for the
code and not C#.
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It is a CLR with a small subset of the Framework class library. It does
execute .NET IL (bytecote), and it will run C# and VB.Net code on the
client. It is designed to be hosted by desktop applications as well as
running in the browser.
Tim
Tech blog:
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I.P. Nichols
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| Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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"Tim Anderson" wrote:\
| Quote: | "Daniel Rail" wrote:
Reading on Microsoft's website in some of the press releases about the
new Windows Presentation Foundation/Everywhere(WPF/E), it is clear that
it is not a full featured .Net Framework. It's only a strict subset of
the full featured Windows Presentation Foundation, with the server side
still on the Windows platform, and it's only intended for web
development. And, they're even talking about Javascript as the possible
language for the code and not C#.
It is a CLR with a small subset of the Framework class library. It does
execute .NET IL (bytecote), and it will run C# and VB.Net code on the
client. It is designed to be hosted by desktop applications as well as
running in the browser.
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A couple of the WPF/E development team members are now bloging providing
some clarification to knock-back the already gathering rumors and likely
will provide more info as things progress. The latter blog has some
screenshots.
http://blogs.msdn.com/jstegman/
http://blogs.msdn.com/mharsh/
As a side issue, I guess the recently announced XNA could also be counted as
cross-platform if one wanted to be generous.;-0 It will have a toolset
similar to Visual Studio and it's own framework supporting managed code for
gammers.
http://www.microsoft.com/xna/ |
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Daniel Rail
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| Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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"Tim Anderson" <timjand (AT) nospam (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44259967$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
| Quote: | It is a CLR with a small subset of the Framework class library. It does
execute .NET IL (bytecote), and it will run C# and VB.Net code on the
client. It is designed to be hosted by desktop applications as well as
running in the browser.
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Now, you are picking my interest. But, can you point me to where you got
that information? Because, the only information that I was able to find on
Microsoft's website was 2 press releases about WPF/E, and none did refer
that it could run as a standalone, but only through a web browser.
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Tim Anderson
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| Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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"Daniel Rail" <daniel (AT) accra (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:4426a9c4$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
| Quote: | Now, you are picking my interest. But, can you point me to where you got
that information? Because, the only information that I was able to find
on Microsoft's website was 2 press releases about WPF/E, and none did
refer that it could run as a standalone, but only through a web browser.
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I interviewed Forest Key, a Director of Developer Tools Product Management
at Microsoft, shortly after the Mix06 conference where WPFE was presented.
I'm writing this up now.
Tim
http://www.itwriting.com/blog |
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Daniel Rail
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| Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Microsoft does cross-platform .NET |
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"Tim Anderson" <timjand (AT) nospam (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4426b30f$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
| Quote: | I interviewed Forest Key, a Director of Developer Tools Product Management
at Microsoft, shortly after the Mix06 conference where WPFE was presented.
I'm writing this up now.
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Now you got me interested. I'll keep an eye on your blog to read it.
Daniel Rail |
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