BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Kurt Bilde Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista I guess that we will get support for .net 2.0 before we gets Vista ;-) http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/21/news/companies/microsoft.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes -Kurt Back to top David Farrell-Garcia Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Kurt Bilde wrote: Quote: I guess that we will get support for .net 2.0 before we gets Vista ;-) http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/21/news/companies/microsoft.reut/index.ht m?cnn=yes "Windows, which is found in about 90 percent of all computer desktops, is one of Microsoft's biggest cash cows" So does anyone who participated in the Borland "cash cow" discussion and commented that the term "cash cow" was a bad thing want to rethink that. Back to top Thomas Miller Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista There is a big difference between taking care of your cash cow and milking it dry. Also, I don't agree with that statement. The cash cow in MS is Office. Office 12 is the first release in years to get any major updates to is, and that is all because of Open Office. Delphi didn't need major updates until VS 2003 got released because it was so much better. Unfortunately, Borland didn't do anything to keep ahead of MS in the IDE race with they had too and now they are in a pickle. I am hoping the new company, without the 200 KG weight of the ALM group, will thrive again. If management would have done it right, Delphi could have been a very healthy cow giving off twice the milk it is now giving ample money to fund both division properly. Very short sited IMO. David Farrell-Garcia wrote: Quote: Kurt Bilde wrote: I guess that we will get support for .net 2.0 before we gets Vista ;-) http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/21/news/companies/microsoft.reut/index.ht m?cnn=yes "Windows, which is found in about 90 percent of all computer desktops, is one of Microsoft's biggest cash cows" So does anyone who participated in the Borland "cash cow" discussion and commented that the term "cash cow" was a bad thing want to rethink that. -- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager Wash DC Delphi SIG Chairperson Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://www.cpcug.org/user/delphi/index.html http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus Back to top Mike B Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista "David Farrell-Garcia" <davidF (AT) WhidbeyIslandSoftware (DOT) com> wrote in message Quote: So does anyone who participated in the Borland "cash cow" discussion and commented that the term "cash cow" was a bad thing want to rethink that. Why? At least Microsoft uses a lot of the "cash cow" cash to make major improvments to each generational release of Windows. The same cannot be said of Borland. Mike Back to top Ramona van Riet Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Om 19:11:53 uur, 22.03.2006, schreef Wayne Niddery [TeamB]: Quote: Kevin B wrote: Of course, I've never heard the real reasons behind Dexter and Highlander but it seems too coincidental.... I don't get the connection between these two names and cows, is there supposed to be one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_cattle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_cattle -- Ramona Back to top Kevin B Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Sarah wrote: Quote: No. It's never a bad thing if spoken by an outsider. But, it becomes a bad or negative thing when spoken by an insider or the CEO himself. Just my 2 cows! I still love the way the dev team appeared to mock the executives' use of "cash cow" by calling the two releases DeXter and Highlander. Are these the two cows you're referring to!? (just kidding) Of course, I've never heard the real reasons behind Dexter and Highlander but it seems too coincidental.... Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Wayne Niddery [TeamB] Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Kevin B wrote: Quote: Of course, I've never heard the real reasons behind Dexter and Highlander but it seems too coincidental.... I don't get the connection between these two names and cows, is there supposed to be one? I'm not sure about Highlander, but DeXter is *really* easy to figure out. -- Wayne Niddery - Logic Fundamentals, Inc. (www.logicfundamentals.com) RADBooks: http://www.logicfundamentals.com/RADBooks.html "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." - Thomas Jefferson Back to top Sarah Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista David Farrell-Garcia wrote: Quote: "Windows, which is found in about 90 percent of all computer desktops, is one of Microsoft's biggest cash cows" So does anyone who participated in the Borland "cash cow" discussion and commented that the term "cash cow" was a bad thing want to rethink that. No. It's never a bad thing if spoken by an outsider. But, it becomes a bad or negative thing when spoken by an insider or the CEO himself. Just my 2 cows! Back to top Kevin B Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Ramona van Riet wrote: Quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_cattle Thanks... and while this may say "Highland" and not "Highlander" there are plenty of other links where they refer to them as "Highlander" cows e.g.: http://www.cruachan.com.au/html/body_scotch.htm Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Kevin B Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Wayne Niddery [TeamB] wrote: Quote: I'm not sure about Highlander, but DeXter is *really* easy to figure out. Really? The only thing that I recognize in it is that the X represents the version 10. Other than that, what is the meaning of Dexter itself- why didn't they pick Xena, Xylophone, or Sox (just a few OTTOMH). :-) Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Brad White Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista "Ramona van Riet" <RamonaVanRiet (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xn0ek1hhm2qilz00e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Om 19:11:53 uur, 22.03.2006, schreef Wayne Niddery [TeamB]: Kevin B wrote: Of course, I've never heard the real reasons behind Dexter and Highlander but it seems too coincidental.... I don't get the connection between these two names and cows, is there supposed to be one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_cattle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_cattle That's really humerous. Delphi has a new mascot. 8:-) By purposely picking two obscure breeds, they could have hidden the tweak from the PHB. I wonder if the Delphi team knew about the link or if it was accidental. -- Thanks, Brad. Back to top Kevin B Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Tom Corey wrote: Quote: None of them started with D, for Delphi. Good point. However, that still doesn't quite seem sufficient to explain why it is Dexter specifically. Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Jolyon Smith Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista In article <4421622d (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, mikeb (AT) hotmail (DOT) com says... Quote: Why? At least Microsoft uses a lot of the "cash cow" cash to make major improvments to each generational release of Windows. The same cannot be said of Borland. Yep. Put BDS 2006 alongside Delphi 1 and/or Turbo Pascal For Windows and you would be hard pushed to tell them apart. No, wait, hang on.... ;D -- Jolyon Smith Back to top David Dean Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista In article <4421af5d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "Tom" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) spamnot> wrote: Quote: Without Windows, there is no office. Office sells very well for Macintosh. I wouldn't be surprised if Office revenues were much higher than Windows since Office is so much more expensive than Windows. -- -David Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. Back to top Tom Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista Quote: There is a big difference between taking care of your cash cow and milking it dry. Also, I don't agree with that statement. The cash cow in MS is Office. Without Windows, there is no office. Quote: Office 12 is the first release in years to get any major updates to is, and that is all because of Open Office. And this makes office a cash cow? 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